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A question regarding Dawes' contract:

Did the trade nullify the contract that he was previously on with Collingwood, and as such did he sign a brand new contract with us? Or will he get the terms that were in his Collingwood contract from the MFC for 2013, and then have a new contract extension that will begin when his Collingwood contract expires?

I know the wording of that question is awkward, but I think it's easy enough to understand...

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    A question regarding Dawes' contract:

    Did the trade nullify the contract that he was previously on with Collingwood, and as such did he sign a brand new contract with us? Or will he get the terms that were in his Collingwood contract from the MFC for 2013, and then have a new contract extension that will begin when his Collingwood contract expires?

    I know the wording of that question is awkward, but I think it's easy enough to understand...

    New contract.

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    Watts and Grimes OOC end of 2013, big years ahead for those 2.

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    Don't really think it would make too much of a difference to either, to be honest.

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    Did we continue to pay part of Woewoden's contract when he went to Collingwood?

    Yes, because it was massive.

    Dawes was on just above the average wage.

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    With Rivers gone that is one vacancy opened up for new recruits.

    Plenty of deletions coming up...

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    THE CONTRACTS THREAD

    2016

    Dawes

    2015

    Clark, Trengove, Jamar (UFA), Garland (RFA***), McKenzie, Howe, Jones (RFA), Hogan, Viney

    2014

    Frawley, Tapscott, McDonald, Blease, Byrnes, Barry

    2013

    Watts, Sylvia (UFA), Davey (RFA), Gysberts, Morton, Grimes, Taggert, Gawn, Martin, Tynan, Fitzpatrick

    2012

    OOC (in number order)

    Batram, Bennell, Petterd, Strauss, Cook, Jurrah, MacDonald, Jetta, Davis, Spencer, Bail, Sellar

    Rookies (upgrade or delist)

    Nicholson ®, Evans ®, Lawrence ®

    Rookies (1 year option)

    Couch, Magner, Sheahan, Williams

    RFA

    Moloney

    UFA

    Green, Rivers, Bate, and Dunn.

    Primary List Vacancies - 1

    Rookie List Vacancies - 0

    IN: Viney (ND26), Hogan, Barry, Byrnes (FA), Dawes

    ND4, ND49, ND63, ND70

    PSD3

    OUT: Green, Moloney, Jurrah, Lawrence ®

    *On assumption that there will be 40 on the Primary List (with Veterans List being abolished) and 6 on the Rookie List.

    **On assumption Hogan is not one of the 40 for 2013.

    ***If in top 25% of earners at club.

    Added future Free Agent qualifiers.

    Sylvia will be UFA next year. Davey will not due to the fact that this will be the first time he has been OOC following 8 years service.

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    With Rivers gone that is one vacancy opened up for new recruits.

    Plenty of deletions coming up...

    Plenty of scope rpfc

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    Added future Free Agent qualifiers.

    Sylvia will be UFA next year. Davey will not due to the fact that this will be the first time he has been OOC following 8 years service.

    I will be very happily surprised if there are any offers for Davey next year.

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    Sylvia UFA next year? Guess that means his about to have his breakout season...

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    Added future Free Agent qualifiers.

    Sylvia will be UFA next year. Davey will not due to the fact that this will be the first time he has been OOC following 8 years service.

    With 8 years of service I thought that the only difference between UFA and RFA was being in the top 25% of earners at the club. If either Sylvia or Davey are in that bracket they'll be RFA, otherwise UFA. Isn't that how it works?

    All 10+ year players will be UFA?

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    It will be interesting to see what sort of seasons Watts and Sylvia have in 2013. Both coming out of contract and both not really living up to expectations at present. What's the bet Sylvia produces a ripping year heading towards UFA status?

    But Watts is the more interesting one. Very unusual that a club isn't doing all it can to tie up it's number 1 draft pick to a long term deal. But that's where he's at I guess.

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    I have spoken to Neeld personally about this and his view was Hardwick saw Clarkson go through 'hell' by not culling when he first got to Hawthorn and therefore decided to go hard first year. Neeld said he could have done this first year but wanted to give players an opportunity. I think halfway through last year he was regretting that decision as he was let down badly by certain players and their level of commitment and ability.

    I agree, he could have done it before our Christmas break in 2011. But only remove maybe 3 at the time.

    Now he has all the first hand knowledge he needs to go to work. He just needs our understanding, & the time required to get things ship shape.

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    With 8 years of service I thought that the only difference between UFA and RFA was being in the top 25% of earners at the club. If either Sylvia or Davey are in that bracket they'll be RFA, otherwise UFA. Isn't that how it works?

    All 10+ year players will be UFA?

    Ok, bear with me here. It can get convoluted.

    Sylvia is UFA because he was 'RFA' at the end of 2011 when he signed on for two years. Therefore he will be UFA after his tenth year - 2013.

    Davey signed a 4 year deal which means he has never had his 'RFA contract' and therefore will be a RFA.

    Outside of that small caveat any one who has been at a club for 8 years or longer is OOC and not paid in the top 25% is an UFA.

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    Ok, bear with me here. It can get convoluted.

    Sylvia is UFA because he was 'RFA' at the end of 2011 when he signed on for two years. Therefore he will be UFA after his tenth year - 2013.

    Davey signed a 4 year deal which means he has never had his 'RFA contract' and therefore will be a RFA.

    Outside of that small caveat any one who has been at a club for 8 years or longer is OOC and not paid in the top 25% is an UFA.

    Thanks. I guess convoluted is par for the course with AFLHQ.

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    Thanks. I guess convoluted is par for the course with AFLHQ.

    What do you call an overly complicated Greek man?

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    What happens if contracts aren't signed by list lodgement next week?

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    What happens if contracts aren't signed by list lodgement next week?

    I don't believe it is the end of it.

    We can re-sign or they can go into one of the drafts.

    In fact I am sure of it. Some players will go into the draft but be on that 'list' for lodgement.

    If not, they are delisted prior to that and qualify for Delisted FA.

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    THE CONTRACTS THREAD

    2016

    Dawes

    2015

    Clark, Trengove, Jamar (UFA), Garland (RFA***), McKenzie, Howe, Jones (RFA), Hogan, Viney

    2014

    Frawley, Tapscott, McDonald, Blease, Byrnes, Barry

    2013

    Watts, Sylvia (UFA), Davey (RFA), Gysberts, Morton, Grimes, Taggert, Gawn, Martin, Tynan, Fitzpatrick, Rodan

    2012

    OOC (in number order)

    Batram, Bennell, Petterd, Strauss, Cook, Jurrah, MacDonald, Jetta, Davis, Spencer, Bail, Sellar

    Rookies (upgrade or delist)

    Nicholson ®, Evans ®, Lawrence ®

    Rookies (1 year option)

    Couch, Magner, Sheahan, Williams

    RFA

    Moloney

    UFA

    Green, Rivers, Bate, and Dunn.

    Primary List Vacancies: 0

    Rookie List Vacancies: -2

    IN: Viney (ND26), Hogan, Barry, Byrnes (FA), Dawes, Rodan

    ND4, ND49, ND63, ND70

    PSD3

    OUT: Green, Moloney, Jurrah, Lawrence ®, Rivers

    *On assumption that there will be 40 on the Primary List (with Veterans List being abolished) and 6 on the Rookie List.

    **On assumption Hogan is not one of the 40 for 2013.

    ***If in top 25% of earners at club.

    Updated.

    We have zero vacancies now so deletions will come thick and fast.

    I can see Bennell, Bate, Cook, MacDonald, and Davis at least.

    ND4, 49, PSD3, Nicho and Evans upgraded to come in...

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    We have zero vacancies now so deletions will come thick and fast.

    I can see Bennell, Bate, Cook, MacDonald, and Davis at least.

    Along with Jurrah, Moloney, Green and Rivers ... I would add Bail and Petterd to that list for a total of 11 departures.

    Bartram will surive I think, as will Strauss and Jetta.

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    Updated.

    We have zero vacancies now so deletions will come thick and fast.

    I can see Bennell, Bate, Cook, MacDonald, and Davis at least.

    ND4, 49, PSD3, Nicho and Evans upgraded to come in...

    Has Rodan only got a 1 year deal? I thought I saw somewhere it was 2 yrs.

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    Has Rodan only got a 1 year deal? I thought I saw somewhere it was 2 yrs.

    2013

    Watts, Sylvia (UFA), Davey (RFA), Gysberts, Morton, Grimes, Taggert, Gawn, Martin, Tynan, Fitzpatrick

    MFC may be thinking ahead in relations to how we will create list space next year.

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    Updated.

    We have zero vacancies now so deletions will come thick and fast.

    I can see Bennell, Bate, Cook, MacDonald, and Davis at least.

    ND4, 49, PSD3, Nicho and Evans upgraded to come in...

    Why save a spot for a pre-season pick? Theres no need. If we want an uncontracted players we can just sign them as they become FA once delisted.

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