rpfc's Measurement of 2012

[deejammin' 2,373]

Not much to say - smashed in all areas even with Hawthorn's DE being near ours.

An outlier game under Neeld?

I don't know? The stats don't tell the future...

I would say the way the stats look thus far the Saints and Bulldogs games are looking more like the outliers.... very sad state of affairs

[rpfc 28,763]

KPI

Contested Possession Differential

2010 > -1.2

2011 > -5.5

2012 > -14.5

BL: 2; WCE: -31; Rich: -14; WB: -4; StK: 5; Geel: 1; Haw: -52; Syd: -23

Inside 50 Differential

2010 > -7.2

2011 > -6.2

2012 > -24.3

BL: -8; WCE: -45; Rich: -35; WB: -4; StK: -22; Geel: -16; Haw: -28; Syd: -36

Clearance Differential

2010 > -2

2011 > -2.8

2012 > -5.5

BL: -12; WCE: -5; Rich: -18; WB: 7; StK: 8; Geel: -7; Haw: -18; Syd: 1

Disposal Efficiency (%) & Differential (%)

2011 > ???

2012 > 66.8 (-7.9)

BL: 65 (-8); WCE: 71 (-6); Rich: 66 (-11); WB: 61 (-13); StK: 61 (-8); Geel: 73 (-8); Haw: 68 (-3); Syd: 69 (-6)

Marks Inside 50 Average & Differential

2011 > ???

2012 > 7.6 (-6.3)

BL: 5 (-10); WCE: 3 (-9); Rich: 14 (-2); WB: 10 (6); StK: 3 (-8); Geel: 10 (-8); Haw: 10 (-8); Syd: 6 (-11)

Scores Against average

2010 > 89.6

2011 > 105

2012 > 120.3

BL: 119; WCE: 166; Rich: 133; WB: 88; StK: 84; Geel: 119; Haw: 115; Syd: 138

Percentage

2010 > 94.5

2011 > 85.3

2012 > 52.5

Analysis

Horrible stuff once again destroyed everywhere except for the clearances...

But a clearance for us is not worth as much as a clearance for other teams as we don't spread and release with hands but hack it forward like Under 8s.

On to Round 9!

[daisycutter 29,731]

Horrible stuff once again destroyed everywhere except for the clearances...

But a clearance for us is not worth as much as a clearance for other teams as we don't spread and release with hands but hack it forward like Under 8s.

On to Round 9!

My under 8 grandson strongly objects to your sniping remarks and demands a retraction

He is very big on structures

He said to me "who does RPFC think he is - Mike Sheahan?"

[rpfc 28,763]

My under 8 grandson strongly objects to your sniping remarks and demands a retraction

He is very big on structures

He said to me "who does RPFC think he is - Mike Sheahan?"

Your grandson needs to realise that he's fair game!

[H_T 3,049]

rpfc, do you by any chance have the kpi figures up until half time against Sydney ? Just out of interest...

[rpfc 28,763]

rpfc, do you by any chance have the kpi figures up until half time against Sydney ? Just out of interest...

No, that would take actual effort and probably a contact at Champion Data.

Neither of which I can provide at the moment.

Edited May 24, 2012 by rpfc

[rpfc 28,763]

KPI

Contested Possession Differential

2010 > -1.2

2011 > -5.5

2012 > -15.7

BL: 2; WCE: -31; Rich: -14; WB: -4; StK: 5; Geel: 1; Haw: -52; Syd: -23; Carl: -38; Ess: -3

Inside 50 Differential

2010 > -7.2

2011 > -6.2

2012 > -21.5

BL: -8; WCE: -45; Rich: -35; WB: -4; StK: -22; Geel: -16; Haw: -28; Syd: -36; Carl: -8; Ess: -13

Clearance Differential

2010 > -2

2011 > -2.8

2012 > -5.7

BL: -12; WCE: -5; Rich: -18; WB: 7; StK: 8; Geel: -7; Haw: -18; Syd: 1; Carl: -28; Ess: 15

Disposal Efficiency (%) & Differential (%)

2011 > ???

2012 > 66.9 (-6)

BL: 65 (-8); WCE: 71 (-6); Rich: 66 (-11); WB: 61 (-13); StK: 61 (-8); Geel: 73 (-8); Haw: 68 (-3); Syd: 69 (-6); Carl: 65 (-7); Ess: 70 (10)

Marks Inside 50 Average & Differential

2011 > ???

2012 > 7.5 (-5.2)

BL: 5 (-10); WCE: 3 (-9); Rich: 14 (-2); WB: 10 (6); StK: 3 (-8); Geel: 10 (-8); Haw: 10 (-8); Syd: 6 (-11); Carl: 5 (-5); Ess: 9 (3)

Scores Against average

2010 > 89.6

2011 > 105

2012 > 112.3

BL: 119; WCE: 166; Rich: 133; WB: 88; StK: 84; Geel: 119; Haw: 115; Syd: 138; Carl: 107; Ess: 52

Percentage

2010 > 94.5

2011 > 85.3

2012 > 54.6

Analysis

A pleasure to do this week...

Improvement in most areas but it should be noted that this was the first time we have won the Disposal Efficiency comparison. Clearances were a fantastic result. Contested possies were pleasing but we knew we could compete there. What was great (and a reason I have brought in the KPI below) is the uncontested possie win. Our second for the year next to the St Kilda game.

Players were spreading and trusting their teammates to win the footy. There is no simple answer to this - the coaches may have put a focus on spread and run but they would say that every week - kudos to the players for coming out and looking for the footy and being there, in space, for their backs.

NEW KPI - Uncontested Possession (W/L)

BL: -89; WCE: -103; Rich: -145; WB: -88; StK: 8; Geel: -124; Haw: -113; Syd: -19; Carl: -32; Ess: 31;

And I will also add a Clift Notes Section to the analysis for a quick read on how we went in all areas.

Contested Possies: Broke-even.

Un-Contested Possies: Won by 30 (2nd time).

Inside 50: Lost but over 50 entries.

Clearances: Dominated.

Disposal Efficiency: Won (1st time).

Marks Inside 50 Diff: Won (2nd time).

Note: There is an 'undo' function on this new site that is just magnificent - was about to hit post when I deleted the whole thing! Right click 'undo' and we are all good! Good stuff Andy!

Edited June 3, 2012 by rpfc

[Geddy Lee 582]

Scores Against average

2010 > 89.6

2011 > 105

2012 > 112.3

BL: 119; WCE: 166; Rich: 133; WB: 88; StK: 84; Geel: 119; Haw: 115; Syd: 138; Carl: 107; Ess: 52

Interesting as always. Should the Carlton against score be in green, or are you comparing to the previous year (2011)?

[rpfc 28,763]

Interesting as always. Should the Carlton against score be in green, or are you comparing to the previous year (2011)?

Improvement on last year.

[rpfc 28,763]

KPI

Contested Possession Differential

2010 > -1.2

2011 > -5.5

2012 > -16

BL: 2; WCE: -31; Rich: -14; WB: -4; StK: 5; Geel: 1; Haw: -52; Syd: -23; Carl: -38; Ess: -3; Coll: -19

Uncontested Possession (W/L)

BL: -89; WCE: -103; Rich: -145; WB: -88; StK: 8; Geel: -124; Haw: -113; Syd: -19; Carl: -32; Ess: 31; Coll: -57;

Inside 50 Differential

2010 > -7.2

2011 > -6.2

2012 > -20.5

BL: -8; WCE: -45; Rich: -35; WB: -4; StK: -22; Geel: -16; Haw: -28; Syd: -36; Carl: -8; Ess: -13; Coll: -10

Clearance Differential

2010 > -2

2011 > -2.8

2012 > -5.9

BL: -12; WCE: -5; Rich: -18; WB: 7; StK: 8; Geel: -7; Haw: -18; Syd: 1; Carl: -28; Ess: 15; Coll: -8

Disposal Efficiency (%) & Differential (%)

2011 > ???

2012 > 67.5 (-5.2)

BL: 65 (-8); WCE: 71 (-6); Rich: 66 (-11); WB: 61 (-13); StK: 61 (-8); Geel: 73 (-8); Haw: 68 (-3); Syd: 69 (-6); Carl: 65 (-7); Ess: 70 (10); Coll: 73 (3)

Marks Inside 50 Average & Differential

2011 > ???

2012 > 8.1 (-4.6)

BL: 5 (-10); WCE: 3 (-9); Rich: 14 (-2); WB: 10 (6); StK: 3 (-8); Geel: 10 (-8); Haw: 10 (-8); Syd: 6 (-11); Carl: 5 (-5); Ess: 9 (3); Coll: 14 (1)

Scores Against average

2010 > 89.6

2011 > 105

2012 > 113.8

BL: 119; WCE: 166; Rich: 133; WB: 88; StK: 84; Geel: 119; Haw: 115; Syd: 138; Carl: 107; Ess: 52; Coll: 129

Percentage

2010 > 94.5

2011 > 85.3

2012 > 55.9

Analysis

Disposal efficiency and marks inside 50 were good while we were soundly beaten on all other areas. One thing that I researched today was that in the games leading up the Sydney game we averaged 157 Uncontested Possessions a game, since then we have averaged 207 (with 179 on Monday). This stat coincides with Jack Watts moving into the backline where he has averaged 15 Uncontested Possies a game.

The increase in uncontested possies is a pleasing by-product of players becoming more comfortable with the defensive side of the Neeld game plan and are more aware to run and spread and look for 'cheap' footy. It obviously came down a touch on Monday.

As Trengove was reported in the Hun on Monday:

In close, Trengove is working as hard as anyone, but his game has lacked outside run, spread and penetration.

"With Neeldy (coach Mark Neeld) coming on board and bringing that really defensive side into the club, which we probably didn't have previously, I got on board and said, 'I really want to nail that'," Trengove said.

"Probably in the process I may have focused on it too much and lost the other side of the game a little bit. It's a matter of finding that balance. I think I'm starting to get the defensive stuff pretty down pat ... it's just about getting the other side of the game back into my weekends."

Clift Notes Section

Contested Possies: Lost by 19

Un-Contested Possies: Lost by 57

Inside 50: Lost by 10

Clearances: Lost by 8

Disposal Efficiency: Won (2nd time).

Marks Inside 50 Diff: Won (3rd time).

[H_T 3,049]

Insightful analysis rpfc. I would imagine that Jacks comments on Monday would also reflect that of most of his teammates too.

Gaining traction.

[rpfc 28,763]

Forgot to do the GWS game...

KPI

Contested Possession Differential

2010 > -1.2

2011 > -5.5

2012 > -9.9

BL: 2; WCE: -31; Rich: -14; WB: -4; StK: 5; Geel: 1; Haw: -52; Syd: -23; Carl: -38; Ess: -3; Coll: -19; GWS: 37 ; BL: 11

Uncontested Possession (W/L)

BL: -89; WCE: -103; Rich: -145; WB: -88; StK: 8; Geel: -124; Haw: -113; Syd: -19; Carl: -32; Ess: 31; Coll: -57; GWS: 15; BL: -96

Inside 50 Differential

2010 > -7.2

2011 > -6.2

2012 > -13.8

BL: -8; WCE: -45; Rich: -35; WB: -4; StK: -22; Geel: -16; Haw: -28; Syd: -36; Carl: -8; Ess: -13; Coll: -10; GWS: 42; BL: 4

Clearance Differential

2010 > -2

2011 > -2.8

2012 > -5.1

BL: -12; WCE: -5; Rich: -18; WB: 7; StK: 8; Geel: -7; Haw: -18; Syd: 1; Carl: -28; Ess: 15; Coll: -8; GWS: -1; BL: -1;

Disposal Efficiency (%) & Differential (%)

2011 > ???

2012 > 68.1 (-4.8)

BL: 65 (-8); WCE: 71 (-6); Rich: 66 (-11); WB: 61 (-13); StK: 61 (-8); Geel: 73 (-8); Haw: 68 (-3); Syd: 69 (-6); Carl: 65 (-7); Ess: 70 (10); Coll: 73 (3); GWS: 73 (4); BL: 70 ( -9);

Marks Inside 50 Average & Differential

2011 > ???

2012 > 8.6 (-3.8)

BL: 5 (-10); WCE: 3 (-9); Rich: 14 (-2); WB: 10 (6); StK: 3 (-8); Geel: 10 (-8); Haw: 10 (-8); Syd: 6 (-11); Carl: 5 (-5); Ess: 9 (3); Coll: 14 (1); GWS: 17 (10); BL: 6 (-9)

Scores Against average

2010 > 89.6

2011 > 105

2012 > 109.9

BL: 119; WCE: 166; Rich: 133; WB: 88; StK: 84; Geel: 119; Haw: 115; Syd: 138; Carl: 107; Ess: 52; Coll: 129; GWS: 57; BL: 122

Percentage

2010 > 94.5

2011 > 85.3

2012 > 62.6

Analysis

The stats are up and down with uncontested possessions sticking out like you know what...

It was a poor result but the play wasn't. We hgave ourselves a chance to compete but couldn't finish well enough.

Fwd line didn't keep the ball in and never looked like being dangerous.

It is much harder to play forward than back, and Rivers and Garland are reinforcing that fact.

Clift Notes Section

Contested Possies: Won by 11

Un-Contested Possies: Lost by 96

Inside 50: Won by 4

Clearances: Lost by 1

Disposal Efficiency: Lost

Marks Inside 50 Diff: Lost

[45HG 1,559]

Quarters won -4.

For the season we're 11-5-36.

Thanks for the stats rpfc.

[rpfc 28,763]

BUMP

I thought I would finish this off. It's an overview of the year with the usual comparison to years past.

I lost the desire to do this around Rd 13...

I may do it again but can we make it more pleasant reading? (and writing?)

PS. Sorry this was so late Deejammin...

KPI

Contested Possession Differential

2010 > -1.2
2011 > -5.5
2012 > -12.4

Uncontested Possession Total & AFL Median Total

2010 > 232 (229)
2011 > 214 (211)
2012 > 191 (211)


Inside 50 Differential

2010 > -7.2
2011 > -6.2
2012 > -11


Clearance Differential

2010 > -2
2011 > -2.8
2012 > -6.1


Disposal Efficiency (%) & Median AFL (%)

2011 > ???
2012 > 68.1 (72.6)


Marks Inside 50 Average & Median AFL Average

2011 > 11.9 (11.5)
2012 > 9.6 (11.6)


Scores Against Average

2010 > 89.6
2011 > 105
2012 > 106.1


Percentage

2010 > 94.5
2011 > 85.3
2012 > 67.5

Analysis

Terrible year obviously with backward steps everywhere. Keeping in mind we were already backpedalling and it illustrates how bad we are at the moment.

Defensively we only allowed an extra couple of points a game. You can read what you will into that.



Clift Notes Section

Contested Possies: Nightmare on Elm Street
Un-Contested Possies: The Shining
Inside 50: Scream
Clearances: Saw
Disposal Efficiency: The Ring
Marks Inside 50: Cloverfield

[dpositive 1,672]

I did view these stats at the time but felt as you indicated the old "Lies Damn lies and statistics" expression coming to a head.

Stats dont indicate all things but it is certainly better to have some tools than none.

It must be difficult to collect and present the stats so I did appreciate your efforts.

It is one of the features of our website that it is a huge collective of people with a single focus.

We perhaps could use that by tasking people to contribute one aspect of behaviour or statistic that interests them and record monitor and comment on that stat.

I am not sure how this could be done but look to the skill and wisdom of those who have set up and run this fantastic resource to suggest why it is possible or impossible.

I for one would like to see some analysis of free kicks. The totals for and against for all sides is interesting on the sporadic occaisons I examine them.

Even greater analysis of the effect of free kicks impact. That is given/received in attack or defence perhaps.

I recall sitting at the ground and seeing an attacking move with all the team propelled forward to a likely goal when a soft free kick turns the game around and the opposition out of position for our attack are suddenly gifted a huge advantage. The 2 goal turnaround. This particularly happened with the free flowing all out attack style and hopefully the more defensive style of Neeld will help overcome the impact.

[deejammin' 2,373]

Thanks RPFC, makes for some sorry viewing, Neeld would want all of these to turn around if he(we) have any hope of having a good year. Hopefully we can all enjoy the stats alot more this year. Thanks so much for doing it again...

[rpfc 28,763]

Thanks RPFC, makes for some sorry viewing, Neeld would want all of these to turn around if he(we) have any hope of having a good year. Hopefully we can all enjoy the stats alot more this year. Thanks so much for doing it again...

No worries, dj.

Although, if we have another shocker I may abandon this before Rd13...