How good is our list?

[Jumping Jack Clennett 1,777]

Watching the Scorpions on TV on Saturday left me very worried. The side was choc-a-block full of our young prospects.....Gawn, Fitzpatrick, Nicholson, MacDonald, Bail,Bate , Dunne and others.

They were playing at second tier level, against a side with nonAFL players, and were hopelessly outclassed, man-on-man all day.

Are we deluding ourselves that we have the material, and that they just need to mature?

Please reassure me, Demonlanders, that I'm reading too much into that insipid performance by our seconds.

[drdrake 3,157]

Just a couple of points Werribee is aligned with North Melbourne and there were a few North Players out there. The problem with Casey on Saturday was the same as the past couple of years we have put a few players out I'm sure Jetta, Blease, Maric and few other could have played but the club has put them out. The midfield was second rate and a lot of players just didn't care, they wanted the year to be over.

I have no problem where our list is at we need to add more depth into our midfield, some quality outside mids is what we need to look to drafting, we need to get players that can carry the footy and hit targets. To me this needs to be number 1 priority.

[Jumping Jack Clennett 1,777]

Just a couple of points Werribee is aligned with North Melbourne and there were a few North Players out there. The problem with Casey on Saturday was the same as the past couple of years we have put a few players out I'm sure Jetta, Blease, Maric and few other could have played but the club has put them out. The midfield was second rate and a lot of players just didn't care, they wanted the year to be over.

I have no problem where our list is at we need to add more depth into our midfield, some quality outside mids is what we need to look to drafting, we need to get players that can carry the footy and hit targets. To me this needs to be number 1 priority.

Thanks Dr Drake. I couldn't work out who they were aligned with. I thought North were with N Ballarat...do they share it? They did have Majak Daws and another name or two I recognised, but not nearly as many AFL listed players as us, I'm sure. That Ross guy should be chased, and he's unlisted.

As for players just not caring, I hope that's wrong! It didn't look that way to me, but if they WEREN'T trying, they're not the sort of people who should make an AFL list.

Edited September 12, 2011 by JUMPING JACK CLENNETT

[Guest Darren Lamb]

North share across the 2 VFL clubs.

Bate & Dunn are well documented.

Fitzpatrick didn't play to my knowledge.

Bail underdone.

Jetta, Blease or Maric would have helped.

Casey had a weak midfield in my view.

Edited September 12, 2011 by Darren Lamb

[Jumping Jack Clennett 1,777]

North share across the 2 VFL clubs.

Bate & Dunn are well documented.

Fitzpatrick didn't play to my knowledge.

Bail underdone.

Jetta, Blease or Maric would have helped.

Casey had a weak midfield in my view.

Fitzpatrick played, but may as well not have. Bail was considered fit enough for AFL the week before(actually, he and Nicholson weren't the Scorps' worst, but both kept getting caught with the ball).Bate and Dunn appeared to be trying, but were beaten by better opponents.Warnock battled on, but was beaten one-on-one too many times.

Going by the AFL and VFL final ladder positions for North Melb, North Ballarat, and Werribee, it seems North's list is far superior to ours. Yet experts aren't predicting great things for the Kangaroos!

[Rogue 585]

Watching the Scorpions on TV on Saturday left me very worried. The side was choc-a-block full of our young prospects.....Gawn, Fitzpatrick, Nicholson, MacDonald, Bail,Bate , Dunne and others.

They were playing at second tier level, against a side with nonAFL players, and were hopelessly outclassed, man-on-man all day.

Are we deluding ourselves that we have the material, and that they just need to mature?

Please reassure me, Demonlanders, that I'm reading too much into that insipid performance by our seconds.

MacDonald, Bate and Dunn aren't our young prospects. They're not in my best 22 and there are guys with more potential/upside that I want to squeeze into it.

Gawn is a long way off but looks likely, while it's too early to make a call on Fitz. Nicholson's fringe at the moment, while Bail's barely played any footy this season.

I wouldn't be worried about what happened on the weekend.

[Waltham33 475]

An ongoing issue is the difference between the best and worst of each player at our club. Our players can look very good at times and very average at others. Overall, that results in me not rating us very high.

[Craig Drinker 179]

Watching the Scorpions on TV on Saturday left me very worried. The side was choc-a-block full of our young prospects.....Gawn, Fitzpatrick, Nicholson, MacDonald, Bail,Bate , Dunne and others.

They were playing at second tier level, against a side with nonAFL players, and were hopelessly outclassed, man-on-man all day.

Are we deluding ourselves that we have the material, and that they just need to mature?

Please reassure me, Demonlanders, that I'm reading too much into that insipid performance by our seconds.

I don't think the issue was so much that Werribee's players were any better than Casey's. For me it was Werribee's game plan that was better.They moved the ball quickly into their forward line and put a lot of pressure on Casey players. In contrast casey fiddled with the ball more and were more indirect.

I have no doubt the quality is there for MFC. My opinion.

[old dee 23,747]

I don't think the issue was so much that Werribee's players were any better than Casey's. For me it was Werribee's game plan that was better.They moved the ball quickly into their forward line and put a lot of pressure on Casey players. In contrast casey fiddled with the ball more and were more indirect.

I have no doubt the quality is there for MFC. My opinion.

Casey reminded me of watching the Dees this year.

I agree 5 and 6 handpasses in a row, you are correct "fiddled with the ball more and more and got more indirect" that covers it.

[Curry & Beer 5,444]

let's just say I felt a lot better about Jurrah, Morton and Tom Scully 12 months ago

[Dee Fan 3,247]

Watching the Scorpions on TV on Saturday left me very worried. The side was choc-a-block full of our young prospects.....Gawn, Fitzpatrick, Nicholson, MacDonald, Bail,Bate , Dunne and others.

They were playing at second tier level, against a side with nonAFL players, and were hopelessly outclassed, man-on-man all day.

Are we deluding ourselves that we have the material, and that they just need to mature?

Please reassure me, Demonlanders, that I'm reading too much into that insipid performance by our seconds.

Psst! you're right but you're not allowed to say that here.

[steve_f 40]

Those aren't our young future players except Gawn.

We seem to have good strike rate 2009-2011 for players who are going to be guns and reasonable number who will develop into good ordinary players.

Guns - Bail, Blease, Gawn, Gysbert, Howe, MacDonald, Tapscott, Trengrove, Watts

Let me just get the safety catch off - Evans, Nicholson, Bennell, Strauss

Is this thing loaded - McNamara, Grimes, Jetta, Jurrah, Spencer

Firing Blanks - Wonaeamirri

[Norm Smith's Curse 2,589]

Ive got a really good feeling about Stef Martin and Bennell.

Our list - already devoid of leadership - had the rest hatched-jobed by Bailey leaving a young group of stunned mullets running around with the big boys. Watch what a bit of direction and some size does to these boys.