"Grandson of a gun, on 09 July 2011 - 02:16 PM, said:

The small pacy crumbing forward with goal sense (a la Sidebottom, Milne, Stokes, Betts etc) is probably the next biggest hole in our list at the moment with Wonna an unknown quantity and no-one else stepping up into the role.

I agree. We should be targetting a couple of crumbers. It is the biggest gap in our future 22."

If thats your and the club's view then thats fine but I don't share it. The delisting process should however become a tad easier already having having 9 180cm or under players on the list. I would be happy with this. I see the area we need bolstering relating to being too small and too easily brushed aside. I would like several hard running types a long the lines of Cooney, Griffin, Birchall . All around 190+ .Looking at the top sides they look a lot bigger than us all over the ground.

I hear what you're saying Dockett however many of the top teams are physically bigger because they have had 5 or 6 pre-seasons in the gym together and have built that muscle mass. It is quite simply a matter of time for our youngsters to put on muscle.

Tapscott aside, not many kids come in with AFL ready bodies.

As i said originally, i agree this year with the first pick being a 'best available' approach and that will likely be a midfielder of the type you are suggesting. But what i was saying is that with subsequent picks, as the draft is 'reportedly shallow' and there will be some speculation there anyway, that we should punt on goalsneak types. It has been a glaring problem all year and one not really being filled by anyone at Casey either.

Sidebottom yesterday was the perfect example of what we need....

This one was on TAC Future Stars from a few weeks ago. It was based on the AFL teams' respective ladder positions after round 22:

1. GWS - Jonathon Patton

2. GWS - Stephen Coniglio

3. GWS - Chad Wingard

4. Port - Dom Tyson

5. GWS - Billy Longer

6. Gold Coast - Taylor Adams

7. GWS - Devon Smith

8. Brisbane - Toby Greene

9. GWS - Will Hoskin-Elliot

10. Adelaide - Matthew Buntine

11. GWS - Hayden Crozier

12. Melbourne - Todd Elton

13. GWS - Nic Haynes

14. Richmond - Elliot Kavanagh

15. GWS - Daniel Markworth

16. Bulldogs - Liam Sumner

17. Fremantle - Sam Docherty

18. Kangaroos - Brad McKenzie

19. Essendon - Mitchell Grigg

20. Swans Tom Mitchell F/S

21. Saints - Seb Ross

22. Carlton - Adam Tomlinson

23. West Coast - Clay Smith

24. Hawthorn - Michael Talia

25. Geelong - Josh Tynan

26. Collingwood - Brandon Ellis

From what little I know, I'd be happy with Sumner, Kavanagh, Docherty or McKenzie at pick 12.

From what I've read, Mitchell Grigg seems to be a good fit for us. Strong bodied midfielder, gun clearance player and has Daniel Rich's left boot. Only drawback is his apparently lazy attitude which I'm sure could be dispelled under Viney, Moloney, etc. He played senior footy for Norwood at 16 I think and has been good against the bigger bodies. Possible replacement for Scully.

From what I've read, Mitchell Grigg seems to be a good fit for us. Strong bodied midfielder, gun clearance player and has Daniel Rich's left boot. Only drawback is his apparently lazy attitude which I'm sure could be dispelled under Viney, Moloney, etc. He played senior footy for Norwood at 16 I think and has been good against the bigger bodies. Possible replacement for Scully.

A lazy attitude is the last thing we need to add too our list....

A lazy attitude is the last thing we need to add too our list....

Sounds like another Col Sylvia and one is enough.

The TAC Future Stars panel had another crack at the first round of the Phantom Draft on yesterday's programme:

1 GWS Giants - Jonathon Patton (Eastern Ranges)

2 GWS Giants - Stephen Coniglio (Swan Districts, WA)

3 GWS Giants - Dom Tyson (Oakleigh Chargers)

4 Gold Coast Suns - Chad Wingard (Sturt, SA)

5 GWS Giants - Billy Longer (Northern Knights)

6 Port Adelaide - Taylor Adams (Geelong Falcons)

7 GWS Giants - Elliot Kavanagh (Western Jets)

8 Brisbane - Will Hoskin-Elliot (Western Jets)

9 GWS Giants - Matthew Buntine (Dandenong Stingrays)

10 Adelaide - Alex Forster (Norwood, SA)

11 GWS Giants - Devon Smith (Geelong Falcons)

12 Melbourne - Toby Greene (Oakleigh Chargers)

13 GWS Giants - Liam Sumner (Sandringham Dragons)

14 Richmond - Daniel Markworth (Calder Cannons)

15 GWS Giants - Hayden Crozier (Eastern Ranges)

16 Fremantle - Fraser McInnes (Perth, WA)

17 Western Bulldogs - Nic Haynes (Dandenong Stingrays)

18 North Melbourne - Sam Docherty (Gippsland Power)

19 Essendon - Mitchell Grigg (Glenelg, SA)

20 St. Kilda - Tom Sheridan (Calder Cannons)

21 Sydney - Tom Mitchell (Claremont, WA) father-son

22 Carlton - Julian Dobosz (North Hobart, Tas)

23 West Coast Eagles - Brad McKenzie (Sturt, SA)

24 Hawthorn - Adam Tomlinson (Oakleigh Chargers)

25 Collingwood - Sam Frost (Sandringham Dragons)

26 Geelong - Brandon Ellis (Calder Cannons)

Interesting they think we need a hard-bodied midfeilder now not a tall forward. I liked the idea of Todd Elton but Toby looks the goods as well. I wonder why Elton fell out of favour? Bad carnival?

Interesting they think we need a hard-bodied midfeilder now not a tall forward. I liked the idea of Todd Elton but Toby looks the goods as well. I wonder why Elton fell out of favour? Bad carnival?

I'd be happy with Green, played very well in the TAC grand final so he can perform in the big games. Bit of a ball magnet and has good skills, can handball and actually hit a target, his kicking seems pretty good too.

I'd be happy with Green, played very well in the TAC grand final so he can perform in the big games. Bit of a ball magnet and has good skills, can handball and actually hit a target, his kicking seems pretty good too.

Me too. I thought he was great in the final. Unfortunately that is all I know of him. BP might know a smidgeon more about him.