St Kilda has released a public statement today stating that Luke Ball has informed them he is leaving.

'Game theory' requires all parties to make reasonable and rational decisions.

This is not a rational decision by Ball and his entourage, and it might lead to an unreasonable conclusion.

Sydney should spend 14 on him, PA should spend 16 on him, MFC should spend 18 on him, NM should spend 21 or 25 on him, Essendon should spend 24 or 26 on him, the Lions should spend 27 on him, and Collingwood should never get near him.

I am not saying we will spend 18 on him, but he represents a good value return for all those clubs I mentioned.

As I have said before - Luke Ball owes us nothing, but there is little doubt that he thinks that playing for us is akin to retirement and we should be wary.

well summised

Ah well, thats absolutely confirmed that Ball will not be a Demon in 2010.

He knew the date that the decision had to be made, and chose not to meet with Melbourne before that time.

Fairly short sighted of him, one would think.

I hope he gets picked up by Fremantle.

Ah well, thats absolutely confirmed that Ball will not be a Demon in 2010.

He knew the date that the decision had to be made, and chose not to meet with Melbourne before that time.

Fairly short sighted of him, one would think.

I hope he gets picked up by Fremantle.

I cannot wait for Ball to end up at a club like Essendon.

He'll play 2 solid years of footy with them, they'll finish 6-8th during those 2 years.

Then in 3 yrs, the demons will storm past the bombers and be the most exciting and talented list going around. And i'll flip Ball the bird and he'll be wishing he'd had a little bit of foresight! Anyone with any sense could realise the demons have ammassed a rediculous amount of talent.

Ball's addition to our list would only slightly quicken our rise to the top.

However we'll still get to the top without him.

SEN website says "will likely nominate for the pre-season draft". (my emphasis)

So does this mean he now has until 18th of November (wednesday) to nominate for the ND?

Correct Jack.

Q:If Ball is picked in the ND. Is it true that a player cannot nominate his salary, and must take whatever is offered?

Q:If Ball is picked in the ND. Is it true that a player cannot nominate his salary, and must take whatever is offered?

Very correct!

A reason for players not to nominate for the National draft but instead to only nominate for the PSD is that they may set terms for their contract, however for the National draft they are not able to do this (contract periods and salaries are predetermined – generally based on the round or selection number the player is drafted with).

A reason for players not to nominate for the National draft but instead to only nominate for the PSD is that they may set terms for their contract, however for the National draft they are not able to do this (contract periods and salaries are predetermined – generally based on the round or selection number the player is drafted with).

Actually this was the old rule. Players can now enter the ND and set their conditions. In some ways, in makes the Pre-season draft obsolete.

Very correct!

A reason for players not to nominate for the National draft but instead to only nominate for the PSD is that they may set terms for their contract, however for the National draft they are not able to do this (contract periods and salaries are predetermined – generally based on the round or selection number the player is drafted with).

I believe that was changed a few years ago.

Same in both drafts.

I believe that was changed a few years ago.

Same in both drafts.

Just read that on Ology. Stand corrected. Didnt know about that, might have only been brought in last year.

As I see it he has shown no interest in MFC and has meet Collingwood????

but has he nominated for the draft or just delisted himself and has until the 18th to nominate for either draft... he may have been making the decision to leave the club now will interview all suitors as we may wish to get to collingwood but a few clubs might have other ideas and it would be best to meet with them (MFC not neccessarily being one of them)

I officially give up on everything list-management related

I officially give up on everything list-management related

I guess we will accept your resignation.

I don't want any List Manager that doesn't want to here.

I know you're 25 and a leader, and the rules allow us to keep you on but if you don't want to be here...

Actually this was the old rule. Players can now enter the ND and set their conditions. In some ways, in makes the Pre-season draft obsolete.

Thanks.

I was just thinking that we could draft him. And then pay him minimum wage so he can play at Casey all year. Just to [censored] him off. He he

This is the SEN Link stating he will nominate for the PSD.

http://www.sportsentral.com/pro/main/story...9586&sr=all

So if he does we will have first shot at him; it's just a matter of do we still want him and are we prepared to pay $500k per year for a player that has issues with his body and his kicking.

He'll be at Collingwood next year. So lets just move on.

and yet the other release appearing in the Hun suggests he will nominate for the ND..and or possibly the PSD.

StKildaS site speaks of both drafts..

Dont get excited people... he will go in the ND

He'll be at Collingwood next year. So lets just move on.

He hasn't nominated for the ND yet (i'm fairly sure). We have until 18th to convince him.

'Game theory' requires all parties to make reasonable and rational decisions.

This is not a rational decision by Ball and his entourage, and it might lead to an unreasonable conclusion.

Sydney should spend 14 on him, PA should spend 16 on him, MFC should spend 18 on him, NM should spend 21 or 25 on him, Essendon should spend 24 or 26 on him, the Lions should spend 27 on him, and Collingwood should never get near him.

I am not saying we will spend 18 on him, but he represents a good value return for all those clubs I mentioned.

As I have said before - Luke Ball owes us nothing, but there is little doubt that he thinks that playing for us is akin to retirement and we should be wary.

Or you could just put it another way ... anybody who thought it was St Kilda or Melbourne exclusively was wrong.

The events of today tell us one thing only ... he wont be a St Kilda next year!!!

Now is he still a chance to become a Demon ... hell yes. Is he a chance to play elsewhere ... hell yes.

Now we will all just have to sit, watch wait and see ...

Apparently the presser has been released, and Ball has nominated for the AFL National Draft.

I'm back on board, let's draft players sound of mind and character. Mitch Thorp time.

I guess we will accept your resignation.

I don't want any List Manager that doesn't want to here.

I know you're 25 and a leader, and the rules allow us to keep you on but if you don't want to be here...

I smiled... good summary.

If Luke Ball wanted to become a Demon, he knew the way to do it which would help strengthen the club and give us more quality youngsters. He has chosen the wrong way, which if we did select him, would see us lose pick 18, when we could have had Luke Ball and pick 18.

People, get over it. I dont want to have to read about how he has turned his back on us, how he has owed it to us. Nobody ever said he wanted to come to the Dees. He never expressed public interest and put us through a knock out phase ala Judd.

He just is not that good a player. His body is struggling to keep up with modern footy, and cant kick more than 35 metres. Id rather take the gamble on a Ben Griffiths or Vardy if still available.

Agree, who care about Luke Ball? Stuff him!