We are focusing on the draft 2009. In a longer term view, what are we doing for 2010? Knowing that GC17 get all of the juicy picks, a few questions:

Who will we have on our list that we can TRADE to GC17 for early picks

Who is out of contract that will be vulnerable to be picked up by them?

Just because the draft is skewed, doesn't mean that we wont be able to get low picks if we trade for them. I can imagine GC17 wanting both the newbies from the draft, and a bit of talent to get them started.

Any thoughts?

GC i imagine will be aiming to keep at least 4 of the top 5 picks in 2010. Pick 6 is available to the team who comes bottom however.

I would be happy if we gave up Petterd for anything we receive. Dont see Petterd as having much upside unfortunately...

GC i imagine will be aiming to keep at least 4 of the top 5 picks in 2010. Pick 6 is available to the team who comes bottom however.

I would be happy if we gave up Petterd for anything we receive. Dont see Petterd as having much upside unfortunately...

I wasn't much of a Ricky fan at the start of the year apart from his courageous nature however I think we unearthed a very smart small forward who uses his body extremely well and is a good kick. He has the ability to kick a couple of goals a game and whilst not a gun, he has become very handy. His game against Port this year was fantastic. I say keep him and send Miller to them.

Do not underestimate Petterd.

He is/will be well worth holding on to.

newton and macca will be gone...

actually i think this thread should have started after trade week...it's a bit early to be talking about this now.

Do not underestimate Petterd.

He is/will be well worth holding on to.

Mate I would love you to prove me wrong. But will the GC accept miller...what bargaining power do they have? I'am worried that we should not [censored] off the AFL in whatever dealings we do with GC as we are not yet self-supporting.

I wasn't much of a Ricky fan at the start of the year apart from his courageous nature however I think we unearthed a very smart small forward who uses his body extremely well and is a good kick. He has the ability to kick a couple of goals a game and whilst not a gun, he has become very handy. His game against Port this year was fantastic. I say keep him and send Miller to them.

i'd chuck in 20 bucks to the club that takes miller off our hands! cant wait to see him gone

Mate I would love you to prove me wrong. But will the GC accept miller...what bargaining power do they have? I'am worried that we should not [censored] off the AFL in whatever dealings we do with GC as we are not yet self-supporting.

Grant.

In regard to the AFL.

The smart thing to do is not to let them know that

you have outsmarted them.

newton and macca will be gone...

actually i think this thread should have started after trade week...it's a bit early to be talking about this now.

Fair call. Save it for another day, right now enjoy draft camp!

I'll question the need. We are building a team. we have actually quite a lot of the components already and are about to top up. These players will galvanise into I think a fairly decent outfit.. and still some seem to want to constantly tinker.. to "collect' picks as though that in itself is teh name of thegame..Its not. Playing good footy with good players is. You get no where if you dont at some stage actually aplly friction to theroad. if you keep the wheels constantly spinning all you do is burn rubber.

its time to focus on teh results from this emerging group as opposed to dismatling and reconfiguring ad nauseum.

The goal..the real game is playing...NOT pretending.

We will be able to getthrough these early GCyears just fine.

Mate I would love you to prove me wrong. But will the GC accept miller...what bargaining power do they have? I'am worried that we should not [censored] off the AFL in whatever dealings we do with GC as we are not yet self-supporting.

if we are to trade Miller it has to be this year for mine, cant see him in my best 22, if not getting a regular game will be even harder next year

anyone know ricky's contract situation, when is he out of contract?

Dont see Petterd as having much upside unfortunately...

see i dont get why there is this mentality often shown to ricky, yet people go week at the knees for maric, who albeit had school last year but has shown nothing.

ricky has plenty of upside. midsized forward or defender, he has strong hands, good kicking and is courageous as all hell. in a robert murphy role in a good team he could be a very good player.

Ricky is a future gun, although I have heard whispers earlier in the year that he has his eyes set on GC17. At the time I found this very hard to believe but as it stands seeing as he hasn't signed a contract extension pass 2010, the speculation is warranted

see i dont get why there is this mentality often shown to ricky, yet people go week at the knees for maric, who albeit had school last year but has shown nothing.

ricky has plenty of upside. midsized forward or defender, he has strong hands, good kicking and is courageous as all hell. in a robert murphy role in a good team he could be a very good player.

Probably because many don't agree that Petterd's a good kick and has plenty of upside.

Maric hasn't shown much but he's also younger than Petterd. The Champion Data stats indicate he's a very good kick.

Probably because many don't agree that Petterd's a good kick and has plenty of upside.

Maric hasn't shown much but he's also younger than Petterd. The Champion Data stats indicate he's a very good kick.

i was using him as an example primarily but nonetheless. i still think petterd has equal upside.

and lets not forget that petterd had a significant injury so although being in the system for 3 years, it is much less than that. im pretty happy with where ricky is headed. he will be a big beneficiary of the experimentation this year as he had the opportunity to develop his game in its entirety.

and as for chamption data stats - if you only get 6 kicks a game, it isn't hard to have decent efficiency.

david swallow will be pick 1, jack darling pick 2

david swallow will be pick 1, jack darling pick 2

YEah 12 months ago Butcher was Pick1 or at the very least 2, so careful looking into that crystal ball of yours - 12 months is along time for 16/17 year olds

YEah 12 months ago Butcher was Pick1 or at the very least 2, so careful looking into that crystal ball of yours - 12 months is along time for 16/17 year olds

Nothing wrong with doing the homework. Many things will change between now & then but the learning that we will go through is beneficial.

Know the players like a golfer knows all his clubs, not just the ones in his buggy that particular day.