I am not saying that winning a flag won't win us respect, but not laying down in games to obtain draft picks and still winning a premiership would earn us much greater a respect.

There are a lot of posters on this forum who seem convinced that the only chance we have of winning one is by getting the PP. It may increase our chances talent wise, but it is no guarantee to success.

Respect is almost earned and lost week to week. Right now the football world is off our backs because we've won two in a row, we get flogged by 70+ points this week and anything we've gained since WC will be forgotten. Fremantle put in a good one this week and people give them credit for responding to such a [censored]-weak performance.

Dean Bailey would trade 15 Cameron Bruces for 1 Tom Scully.

And so would any of you.

I am not saying that winning a flag won't win us respect, but not laying down in games to obtain draft picks and still winning a premiership would earn us much greater a respect.

Why make it any harder to win a flag then it will be? If we win a flag then it will not matter diddly squat what happened 4 to 7 years before.

There are a lot of posters on this forum who seem convinced that the only chance we have of winning one is by getting the PP. It may increase our chances talent wise, but it is no guarantee to success.

FWIW, the general public and the media do not believe MFC are good enough to deliberately lose games and think the team is out and out the worst side in the competition.

I have not read that point of view except from those people opposed to MFC taking such measures as to maximise draft pick opportunities.

There is no guarantees that an extra PP will win us a flag. Its been correctly argued that stars win Clubs premierships. We dont have any and need them badly. Scully is the highest ranking junior in the country with a skill set that marks him a potentially top player, a potential star. We need to develop stars and need to do so through every means we can.

Just horrible to read. We have no respect from the football world, I want it back and back now. Winning games brings that respect back. I want to win games. Fark the rest of it. I'm sick and tired of people laughing when refering to the MFC, when talking about footy each week people not even bothering to talk about MFC games as they are a walk over. Win Win WIN.

To be honest with you, the only thing I hear from friends of mine who are keen footy supporters is that they reckon we will finish on 5 wins.

You know what they do after they say this?

They laugh.

And ask how we could possibly screw this up.

6 more losses and they'll respect us when we are beating them.

There are a lot of posters on this forum who seem convinced that the only chance we have of winning one is by getting the PP. It may increase our chances talent wise, but it is no guarantee to success.

I'd rather it increase our chances talent wise, than have no PP at all. Sure no guarantee to success, but widely regarded as a better chance with two picks than one.

I Thought Cam Bruces Interview in the Paper Today (Hun) was great but his comment on Tanking was very selfish indeed.

If he wishes to play next year He better be prepared to work real Hard.

I Thought Cam Bruces Interview in the Paper Today (Hun) was great but his comment on Tanking was very selfish indeed. If he wishes to play next year He better be prepared to work real Hard.

Unfortunately you cannot teach an old dog new tricks. When he says that he forgets that there will still be 30000+ members in 4-5 years when he will no longer be playing. So in a way it does come across as somewhat selfish.

I Thought Cam Bruces Interview in the Paper Today (Hun) was great but his comment on Tanking was very selfish indeed.

If he wishes to play next year He better be prepared to work real Hard.

Motives are rarely unselfish.

I don't begrudge him that attitude - all players should have that sort of ambivalence to the issue.

Clubs and players can be poles apart in their priorities, let's hope they are for the final month and a half.