Top 25 for 09 Draft

[cooko 124]

I am not sure if this has been posted before.. i found it on another site and thought it was interesting..

AFL Prospectus (Champion Data) – Top 25 for 09 Draft (not in order)

Please note - last year 15 of their top 25 were picked in the top 25 on draft day, 6 others were picked up later, 2 in the rookie draft and 2 missed out all together (Tom Hill and Tyson Davis-Neale – who were both bottom aged)

2009 – they say the top picks will be mostly mids this year

Mids

* Callum Batrlett – 179/75 - Outside Mid with pace and skills - Geelong

* Ryan Bastinac – 182/71 – Goal kicking ball magnet and clearance player – Dandenong

* Alex Carey – 178/74 – not quick but is a natural football & ball magnet who can kick goals and was already playing senior reserves last year – Glenelg

* Allen Christen – 175/69 – small, but clever ball magnet, who is both inside and out – Geelong

* Jesse Crichton – 183/66 – works hard, tackles hard and runs hard, they are predicting he will be a star – Tassie

* Jordan Gysberts – 189/82 – kicking needs work but finds the ball and avg’s well for clearances and inside 50’s

* Kane Lucas – 186/78 – an exciting prospect who they claim is one of the standout mids at the moment – East Fremantle

* Dustin Martin – 187/84 – absolute ball magnet in the TAC cup – Bendigo

* Jake Melksham – 183/69 – very promising inside mid who can rack up contested possessions and clearances – Calder

* Andrew Moore – 188/81 – can play through the middle or across half-back avg 4 hardball gets and 3 tackles in TAC – Eastern Rangers

* Andrew Morabito 189/85 – mid who can also play forward and kick goals, is known for doing some magical things – Peel Thunder

* Tom Scully – 182/72 – Avg 27 disposals, 12 contested, 6 hardball gets, 9 handball receives and 5 I/50’s in the TAC and was in the top 5 best performed mids in the U/16 NC, he is their early pick to go Number 1, saying he is a future superstar – Dandenong

* Koby Stevens – 186/78 – likes to kick it long and appears to be getting better as he gets older avg 20 disp in TAC – Gippsland

* Liam Tobin – 186/78 – has a very effective kick and avg 18 possies (8 contested) at the U/16 NC - Sandringham

Utilities

* Declan Bevan – 195/96 – Very good U/16 key forward at nationals but, struggled in his first year at U/18 they predict he will go to the GC – QLD

* Tom Mackenzie – 194/84 – kick needs work but is versatile and can play either end or in the ruck - Geelong

Key Forwards

* John Butcher – 197/83 – tall, athletic, his marking is his strength, was second to Watts in Goals kicked at the U/18 NC impressive for a 1st year player, predicting a top 2 draft pick – Gippsland -- I saw him play and he was super impressive, very good hands.

* Jack Fitzpatrick – 196/73 – can play fwd or back, was equal top goal kicker at U/16 NC, sounds kind of like his ex-teammate Post – Western jets – apparently he wears a headband!

* Ben Grifiths – 194/82 – athletic tall with a lot of potential but has had some injuries – Eastern Rangers

* Myles Pitt – 190/93 - goal kicking machine who is also excellent in the air and kicks for goal at an impressive 70% which is an excellent rate for a key forward, only issue is his height for the position he appears suited - Dandenong

Key Defender

* Kyle Hartigan – 194/82 – reliable key defender known for spoils and marks from opp. kicks – Western Jets

Defenders

* Mitch Duncan – 187/81 – Reliable defender who dominated in WA colts, rebounding of half back – East Perth

* Mitchell Golby – 181/74 – Neat left footer who reads the play well and racks up the possessions – Gippsland

Rucks

* Joseph Groenewegen – 196/77 – mobile ruckman who is one to watch – Tassie –- from a big footballing family in Tassie I think because I know the name

* Nathan Vardy – 198/83 – developing ruckman/key defender who will take time, but he lead the U/16 NC in hitouts to advantage

[Trisul 664]

"2 missed out all together (Tom Hill and Tyson Davis-Neale – who were both bottom aged)"

As are the GC allowables. Interesting.

[montasaurus 0]

* Tom Scully – 182/72 – Avg 27 disposals, 12 contested, 6 hardball gets, 9 handball receives and 5 I/50’s in the TAC and was in the top 5 best performed mids in the U/16 NC, he is their early pick to go Number 1, saying he is a future superstar – Dandenong

* John Butcher – 197/83 – tall, athletic, his marking is his strength, was second to Watts in Goals kicked at the U/18 NC impressive for a 1st year player, predicting a top 2 draft pick – Gippsland -- I saw him play and he was super impressive, very good hands.

Well done to those who called this nov/dec last year! 6mths to go is still a long time

[H_T 3,043]

Hard to believe, we might need a 'Draft and Trading' Forum, already.

[Trisul 664]

Hard to believe, we might need a 'Draft and Trading' Forum, already.

Wasn't expecting it to disappear in the first place, potential for abuse I guess.

Hopefully it's just hidden? There was some nice information in there.

[JACKATTACK 17]

Well done to those who called this nov/dec last year! 6mths to go is still a long time

Which is great if we do end up with 1 & 2 and these 2 are still 1 &2 (or 2 & 1), in terms of progression against the other clubs we are best served by a situation where there is a massive drop off to pick 3.

[Freak 100]

why do people think that we will lose to richmond when we play them again? We beat them the first time, and with the natural improvement that will come from our younger players as the season goes on surely we will beat them again and they will finish bottom?

[Gorgoroth 12,921]

Yeah I have a feeling that the Tigers will get worse and finish last.

[Rhino Richards 1,467]

why do people think that we will lose to richmond when we play them again? We beat them the first time, and with the natural improvement that will come from our younger players as the season goes on surely we will beat them again and they will finish bottom?

They could have back a number of key players who were missing when we played them last time. I would want to lose to them. I hate saying that because they look like a side that is a monty to get a 2nd Rd PP this year.

[Viney_12 1]

* Allen Christenson – 175/69 – small, but clever ball magnet, who is both inside and out – Geelong

this kid is leading TAC voting I think??

I'd throw in Talia from the Cannons (Key Forward) as well who looks like he could be top 30

[Hazyshadeofgrinter 80]

I am not sure if this has been posted before.. i found it on another site and thought it was interesting..

There is some pretty good info here as well. Many of the same names but players are listed by region, not position and the comments are a little more expansice (but still mostly meaningless).

2009 Pre-Season Top U18 Prospects

WA

Kane Lucas (East Fremantle) – Hard running, clean 189/ outside midfielder that makes good decisions with the football and has outstanding 2nd efforts. Received an AIS-AFL Scholarship in 2007 after an outstanding U16 carnival and was unlucky not to make the AA U18 team last year.

Anthony Morabito (Peel) – Athletic, strongly built, mobile 192/90 utility that has plenty of sexy attributes, but needs to get more of it. Played 3 games for WA in the 2008 U18 Championships - a hamstring injury prior to the carnival caused him to miss the first game and prevented him from playing more and being at full fitness.

Mitchell Duncan (East Perth) – Solidly built, hard running 187 utility that consistently makes good use of and decisions with the footy in his hands. Captained WA in the 2007 U16 championships, but had a ‘quietish’ U18 championships – mainly playing off HB, but very dominant at colts level despite not playing many games.

Brad Sheppard (East Fremantle) – Wiry, athletic medium defender. Played all games for WA in the 2008 U18 championships.

Clint Garlett (Swan Districts) – Nippy, evasive 175 running HFF/midfielder. Played some games for WA in the 2008 U18 championships, was part of Swan Districts premiership winning colts team and held an AIS-AFL scholarship from 2007, however missed out on getting drafted last year (eligible as a bottom aged player).

Mark Hutchings (East Perth) – Hard running, tough small inside midfielder without any significant standout attributes. Played some senior footy for East Perth at WAFL level and acquitted himself very well for a 17 year old.

Others to look out for: Xavier Foley - CHB, Travis Colyer - midfielder/small forward, Aaron Elari – small midfielder/flanker, Anthony Collica, Liam Smith, Michael Cooper, Chris Forsyth, Mitch Carter, Lance Daly – tall leading key forward, Dylan Bairstow, Chris Luff – ruckman/utility

SA

Alex Carey (Glenelg) – Quick, running small midfielder with very neat footskills. Was in the SA U18 squad last year, but didn’t make an appearance at the championships. Apparently an exceptional junior cricketer.

Matthew Thompson (Sturt) – Hard at it, powerful inside midfielder. Played a few fairly anonymous games in the U18 championships, however he showed outstanding form in the SANFL U19 competition in 2009 in the best players an amazing 13 out of 17 times.

Luke Tapscott – Big bodied (manchild) small forward that is very strong overhead and has great nous for goals. Only played 2 U18 championships games but kicked 9 goals.

Dale Armstrong – Strong bodied, high possession winning 185 inside midfielder, with hit and disposal is hit and miss. Played all games for SA in the 2008 U18 Championships.

Others to look out for: Jack Trengove, Tyson Davis-Neale, Travis Lane – small forward, Matt Goldsworthy, Alex Wilson – small midfielder

Vic Metro

Tom Scully (Dandenong Stingrays) – Livewire, smart, creative small inside/outside midfielder with an outstanding all-round game and range of attributes – close to the complete package. 2007 AA U18 and at this stage appears the leading contender for the no. 1 pick overall.

Jordan Gysberts (Eastern Ranges) – Tough, hard hitting, pacy tall inside 1st dibs midfielder. Played in the U18 championships last year and showed plenty of promise despite not winning a huge amount of the footy. Was also named in the TAC Cup team of the year on the bench.

Jack Fitzpatrick (Western Jets) – Competitive, athletic, mobile KPF that’s still growing into his body – will be interesting to see how he progresses in that area this year. Played some games during the U18 championships in 2008, but was inconsistent at TAC Cup level in 2009. A current AFL-AIS scholarship holder.

Jake Melksham (Western Jets) – Skinny, athletic medium flanker with very good footy smarts and decision making ability. Named in the Vic Metro squad for the 2008 U18 championships but did not play and struggled with injury last year and played school footy which limited his TAC Cup appearances, but showed plenty in 2007 as a 15/16 year old (part of Calder’s winning TAC Cup team) to get himself an AIS scholarships and suggest he’s one to watch in 2009.

Tom Hill (Northern Knights) – Skinny, mobile, athletic high grabbing ruckman/KPP. Passed up as a bottom ager in the 2008 draft, but not by far. If he improves his ball winning ability, game sense and physicaliy he’ll certainly be drafted this Novemeber – at the very least rookied.

Kyle Hartigan – No nonsense key defender with a strong aerial presence and ability. Finished 2nd in the Western Jets best and fairest last year. A current AFL –AIS scholarship holder.

Ben Griffiths – Athletic, high marking key forward that is very much potential over potential at this stage - looks good but yet to produce the big hauls. A current AFL-AIS scholarship holder.

Others to look out for: Rayner (Western Jets) – inside midfielder, Andrew Moore (Eastern Ranges), Liam Tobin (Sandringham), Sean Tighe, Daniel Talia, Zac Ledin

Vic Country:

John Butcher (Gippsland Power) - Athletic, leading and marking key forward with strong marking skills and excellent all-round forward nous . Had an excellent 2008 U18 championships for an ineligible bottom aged key forward, amongst the top goal kickers overall. AIS-AFL Scholarship holder.

Allen Christensen (Geelong Falcons) - Quick, clean, clever, evasive outside midfielder/flanker. Played in the U18 championships last year, before injury and is a current AIS-AFL Scholarship holder.

Farren Priest (Murray Bushrangers) - Explosive inside midfielder that won the 2008 Morrish medallist (TAC Cup B&F award) and was part of Murray’s winning TAC Cup team.

Koby Stevens (Gippsland Power) – Powerful, big bodied goal kicking midfielder. AIS-AFL Scholarship holder as of last year and was named in the TAC Cup team of the year on a wing.

Ryan Bastinac (Dandenong Stingrays) – Skinny, but steady and smart high posession winning midfielder that does most things well. Was part of the Dandenong’s losing 2008 TAC Cup GF team and came equal 3rd in their best and fairest last year.

Ben Cunnington (Geelong Falcons) – Hard hitting, pacy running midfielder. Was in the VC U18 squad in 2008, but only played the one game with limited TOG.

Myles Pitt (Dandenong Stingrays) – Key forward with very good overhead marking ability.

Tom MacKenzie (Geelong Falcons) – Football smart, athletic key defender with the ability to swing forward.

Callum Bartlett (Geelong Falcons) – Damaging outside goal kicking small midfielder with plenty of pace and sharp footskills.

Others to look out for: Brad Mangan (Murray Bushrangers) – marking medium HFF, Luke Thompson (Geelong Falcons) – key defender, Nathan Vardy (Gippsland Power) – Ruckman, Andrew Hooper (North Ballarat Rebels) – small defender

Tasmania:

Jesse Crichton – Very slight, dynamic/explosive, hard working inside midfielder that has very good vision in traffic. Played consistently well in the 2008 U18 championship for Tasmania and is a current AIS-AFL Scholarship holder.

Ryan Harwood –Clever, smooth inside midfielder with good vision in traffic. Performed well in the 2008 U18 championships and is an AIS-AFL academy player as of last year.

Joeseph Groenewegen – Raw, rangy, athletic, undersized ruckman that was still clearly growing into his body last year so will be interesting to see how much he’s progressed since. AIS-AFL academy player as of last year too.

Others to look out for: Daniel Archer – spoiling key defender, Marcus Davies – medium defender, Jamie Clippingdale -

NSW/ACT

Jeremy Kirkwood – Athletic, hard working, high possession winning defensive medium inside midfielder. Tagged Daniel Rich out of the NSW/ACT vs WA U18 championships game at Subiaco

Josh Duncan – High possession winning medium outside midfielder. Tied up to St Kilda via the NSW/ACT scholarship and was a solid performer in the U18 Championships last year.

Dylan McNeil – Hard working small inside midfielder with good vision, creativity and courage. Played in the U18 Championships last year and for Murray in the their winning 2008 TAC Cup winning premiership team

Taylor Duryea – Nippy small crumbing forward with some tricks that can push further up the ground. Played in the U18 Championships last year and for Murray in the their winning 2008 TAC Cup winning premiership team.

Queensland

Declan Bevan – Strongly built key forward with a good pair of dukes. Played for Queensland in division 2 of the U18 championships last year and has an AIS-AFL scholarship.

[Al`s DEMONS 0]

Yeah I have a feeling that the Tigers will get worse and finish last.

when wallet is sacked they will win 2 quick ones

[Dannyz 2,682]

Callum Bartlett is out for the year.

ACL done and operated on.

[e25 5]

Is the utility Tom McKenzie the younger brother of our Jordie?

I'm pretty sure he is

[H_T 3,043]

They could have back a number of key players who were missing when we played them last time. I would want to lose to them. I hate saying that because they look like a side that is a monty to get a 2nd Rd PP this year.

Agree. But having said that, they are just as likely to go to AAMI and beat Port this week for some unknown reason. Don't ask me why, please. My answer would simply be: Because they are Richmond. And Port is Port.

[Carn dees 108]

* Liam Tobin – 186/78 – has a very effective kick and avg 18 possies (8 contested) at the U/16 NC - Sandringham

Played footy with him went to school with him for a few years.

[Guest Digga]

* Liam Tobin – 186/78 – has a very effective kick and avg 18 possies (8 contested) at the U/16 NC - Sandringham

Played footy with him went to school with him for a few years.

Effective kickers are becoming the gold these days.

[hillie 41]

really hope we go butcher and scully with our picks if we get em. need a long term key forward to back up watts and a star onballer (or two). i've been saying it since november and my view hasn't changed. butcher kicked 6 in a losing side on the weekend. he is a star.

[olgreydingo 51]

We are a bit short (excuse the pun) in the ruck dept. Spencer will be at least another season away from top AFL standard, PJ , i believe was not recruited as a No1 ruck man, Jamar, is far behind J Whites standards, and who knows what the Meese will be like with a year off, so what are our next options for a year or three?

[MelbournePassion 7]

I am not sure if this has been posted before.. i found it on another site and thought it was interesting..

This years draft sounds good to me.

[LucaBrazi 0]

Very interesting topic!

[Keyser Söze 0]

why do people think that we will lose to richmond when we play them again? We beat them the first time, and with the natural improvement that will come from our younger players as the season goes on surely we will beat them again and they will finish bottom?

Prophetic.

[Keyser Söze 0]

Even though I understand why, its still interesting to see Trengove isn't even mentioned in the entire thread.