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And I thought some posted on here.....

Yes I do but I want every single fact in this sorry saga to be in the Public Domain, at the moment it isn't so we get page after page of uninformed opinion After training at Goschs yesterday all the players were being give something out of an unmarked Esky, I wondered what they were, JKH was reluctant to show me must have thought I wanted a bit fruit flavoured icy poles

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Nah I reckon the other article where the MP wants a Senate enquiry into the AFL, the government at the time and ASADA yes please

No idea on how Goodwin will approach this, there is a trip west involved as well, may use this as an opportunity to have a look at fringers, Declan's body shape has already changed and with the proper develooment now in place, you can see more improvement in him

I am sure Collingwoods sponsors would have loved to see AHG next to their paid for sponsorship signs around the ground, the tent was set up there for a reason

Must be quiet day, born and bred Victorian, playing in interstate team, high draft pick, contract up for renewal....McLure at his finest

Macca's speciality is getting the best out of everybody, reckon he is the best signing, apart from senior coach, the club has made in the last few years, you can see the respect from both the coaches and players, also calls a spade a spade, ask a question you get an answer

Spoke to Macca about him, showed enough improvement in the 6 week mini pre season last year and consistency at Casey to be given the chance, think only scratched surface they want to see what full time environment can achieve Big lump of a bloke, managed to rip his training jumper to shreds in tackling drill

Why has it taken so long for the Zacha truth to be put on here, the issue is 4 years old, a convenient truth?

My point is we assume thst is what was asked, sorry I don't trust ASADA, and the biased system with WADA and the Court of Appeal

I hate to be pedantic but you seem to be inferring in the above that none of the players lied to ASADA If they did 'lie', do you know the actual specific question they were asked, they were told everything was above board "Have you bern injected with a banned substance" "No"

There are lot of posters on here with their own agendas it doesn't preclude them from posting There are always two sides to an argument, they should both be able to be aired on a public forum Agree with and respect your consistency on this topic

So Zacha lied as well, and Robbo is a drunk In this whole topic, there has been maybe 6 or 7 who have been really vociferous, yourself included, and a couple , including myself, who have tried to put an opposite view. Maybe there could be more with the opposing view but are unlikely to post not wishing to receive the same sort of feedback I have been receiving

Well I am a non Essendon supporter and I think Robbo presented another view, I also didn't think it was rubbish, and despite your vociferousness, I am sure you will find others who think the same. you just need to look somewhere besides the pack mentality on here You will find Chook Fowler has a similar opinion to myself on what occurred with the players

Robbo is entitled to his opinion, right or wrong, questioning his sanity is a bit rich, he just has a bigger forum than here to express it. Not everybody agrees with the majority of opinions expressed on here, which are based on nothing more than other reporting of the matter, we are all free to choose which version we believe Until Dank and Hird fess up the truth will never be out there

Yes Chris, but you said ASADA wouldn't reach a decision with incomplete information, which is what they did, as you state above

cough...that would be a first, isn't that what they did in Essendon's case because the information had supposedly been shredded I am no fan of the AFL

Sorry for the capitals but don't know how to change font colour

So Hird, Dank, Robinson, Reid, board of Essendon, Demetriou and a couple of others at the AFL, do the words 'hell freezes over" ring bells? He has handed back the medal, I am more concerned how we are going to contain Essedon's revitalised midfield in games

Again, probablility that they were injected with a substance that has the potential to be performance enhancing

Maybe Watson, like others including myself, just wants this to go away, this whole thing from start to finish has been a mess, let's put it to bed and get on with the new season, the one amusing thing in all this for me, was a news story a couple of days ago that Essendon were amongst the clubs who were fined for administrative breaches in regards to player whereabouts and it just seemed to fade away, as non news with past history and Whitfield implications ignored....my point about the whole anti drugs program is a circus run by clowns

That pic is from 2011, with Kobe on our right he was 8 then so 14 nearly 15 now, the other son is going down the academic path

Thanks to Nev Jetta I follow the Wiz on instagram posted a pic of Kobe's B&F and put "hope the Dees are watching"

Wasn't ridiculing Pedo, his name was just far enough down the list of re signings to make the line slightly absurd personally really like the bloke as a person and player. Think personally they asked Lewis to say the Hogan line, good vibes, think the 3 year offer and friendship with Todd Viney main factors