Deecisive

I expect Dangerfield to stay, question is does he sign a multi year contract or a one year contract so that we go through this again at the end of next year. Financially i believe he would be better off taking a one year contract this year so he can see what others may be prepared to pay for him going forward.

i love the article in the Herald Sun where Goddard is stating its unethical for other clubs to go after contracted essendon players. What universe do these people live in where everything they do including going after mitch clarke and feeding their own players unknown substances is ethical but others talking to their player is not.

Given our support for Mitch in the past I would assume that the club would have provided him with what they believed is a fair contract, i.e. given injuries it would probably have a low salary base but performance / match payments to boost his salary should he play for the seniors or perform. Any other type of contract would either devalue him should be play or end up screwing the MFC should be continue to have injuries. I am not sure there is any benefit of taking him as a rookie, i.e. if he is well enough to play he should be playing, if he is injured we could potentially put him on a long term injury list to ensure he recovers. The fact that he is shopping around means that he wants to know what the market is prepared to pay him and possibly if he can also get picked up by a top 4-8 team. I doubt any team is going to give him a high base salary given his injury history. I wonder if he will ever be capable of playing a full season of football.

Everyone expected Jimmy to be taken before Wines so it was not a drafting error, it was just that Wines stepped up. Wines had hoped to be taken by the MFC but was not so he probably set out to prove us wrong which he has duly done. Who knows how good or bad he would have been playing in this years melbourne side. Time to move on and support Jimmy T who is a melbourne player while wines is not. So if you want to keep singing the praises of Wines, try the port fan pages im sure you will get lots of thumbs up there.

equalisation is only for the rich

Saints trying to sucker us into using a first round on Stretch would be pretty stupid, Roos has show he is not sentimental, every player can be traded for the right price, so Roos may just call their bluff so the saints may just end up with Billy. I would hope that if that unfortunate event did occur that we would continue try to woo billy back to the dees at sometime in the future.

Pace has its place on the field, usually when you need someone breaking the lines. Ïn the mid field you need fast reactions, get the ball and get rid of it in a split second to another player on the outside as most decent players these days have people hanging off their elbow ready to tackle. Ablett is not super fast, but is damn hard to catch. We need players who have good speed of foot but better speed, stand up in a tackle and have great ball handling skills .

We do not have the $$ and are not an attractive enough destination for A grade players, Roos at the Swans pulled together a premiership team from a lot of refuse and ordinary players. I expect him to continue to look for value in the players that are available and look for guys who play the part he wants them to play. I am sure he and the recruiting team will look at everyone, look at their stats, clips of their game style, etc to ensure they do not over look a diamond in the rough that may fit into our team. I have every confidence that they will be trying to bring in experienced players who will help lift Melbourne next year and the year after, etc....

No he didnt lay a tackle, but i loved that thing he did when he had the ball and threw it down onto the ground and it bounced up and he caught it and ran on again... wow I wonder some melbourne players could actually learn how to do that. As for his long bombs, i think the speed of his ball movement and the fact that he gets an extra 20-30 meters because of his runs its likely to give our forwards more chance of having one on one contests rather than the slow movement around the cape and back again that results in 36 players all in our forward half. an attacking approach to the ball and the game, he would certainly be an asset to have.

Hird may have a little something in the bottom draw that may help lift mitch's mood.... Money

Harry has been getting a regular game in a top 8 team over the last 4 or 5 years and playing well. He is a walk up start to play with us and certainly an upgrade.

We brought or is that bought Mitch clark in a couple of years ago as a key piece of our club moving forward, we were so impressed with him that we gave him number 11. that is no ordinary number and a lot was expected of him following after Jim. I think its safe to say that he has failed to show the leadership and devotion to the club that we were hoping for, as such his talking to others before really talking with the MFC feels like betrayal of both the club and supporters. I have my doubts about Collingwood taking him, only from the fact that Collingwood has made quite a few poor decisions on big men and forwards in recent years a couple more and Bucks and co may find themselves being turfed out of the club. Collingwood fans are far from forgiving, something Mitch needs to consider as their expectations will be far greater than lowly melbourne supporters who would probably be happy with a forward who can contribute 40-50 goals per year.

I agree with the swap mitch for harry, at least harry turns up and plays reasonably well most of the time, where as mitch has the potential to be anything, if he can get his body and mind fit. I think that if he does not do something to help fix up his now tattered image thanks to his manager then some of this will continue to haunt him for years to come.

Any chance she can play football, maybe she will show a little more gratitude for what she received.

No wonder Pert rang Roos to ask if he wanted to talk to harry, obviously had the swap in mind, though knowing collingwood they would probably also demand our first pick as well.

LOL, Youngs quote "The trade was a no-brainer and Fremantle messed up what really was impossible to do. Ross should check with his CEO and find out what really transpired that week. I’m still shocked that no one has been made accountable for the trade of a lifetime gone wrong. The deal of a lifetime that freo missed out on is presumably the deal of a lifetime that melbourne got instead!

Mitch's smart @r$@ manager may have irretrievably damaged Mitch's image and ability to pull big dollars. I believe the MFC would have continued to honor its 4 year contract with mitch at the now insane $750k per year, that would have at least given him a chance next year to prove his value before contract renegotiations at the end of next year. Now he is a broken toy that walked away from us with a pocket full of $$'s in the hope that he could then walk into a new contract with a better club. Unfortunately for him, few clubs will want him and I suspect none would be willing to pay him the sort of money that he would have gotten at MFC. Any spot on the melbourne list would presumably have a performance incentive in there, i.e. he plays and plays well he gets more $$'s. It will be interesting to see where he ends up, also if his manager gets his contract renewed also.

Can someone please advise under what rules we would get compensation, mitch is not a free agent so does not go under the same remuneration as frawley i.e. length and value of contract. The only way I believe we can get compensated for Mitch leaving is by going to the AFL cap in hand and saying please sir we have been hit by exceptional circumstances, can we have another PP to compensate, which the AFL would then adjudicate. The other clubs would obviously protest because essentially Mitch is just walking away from Melbourne hence I cannot see them as being keen on giving us compensation.

Other clubs will obviously ask questions about mitch fitness and health, few sides will pass up the opportunity to look at a ready made KP player or discuss what he wants with his manager, however they may find that like melbourne they are not going to be offering what he was on in the previous years, he is damaged goods in more ways than one and has done severe damage to his brand. His manager is a major nuffnuff who should be sacked for incompetence. If he had played his cards right with Melbourne and talked with them instead of going behind their back we could have potentially worked something out that saved everyones face and careers. Now mitch is looking far less attractive to many, quite a few clubs and the general public at large. it will be interesting to see what Karma brings him and the club he ends up at.

No I must admit supposition based on circumstantial evidence, i.e. he was on a healthy annual salary which would have included all of this years salary, he had a year to run so would have most likely taken a healthy discount on next years salary to take it early and go. Which would give us a figure or just over $2m which was mentioned earlier as what the MFC had paid him for his 15 games. Happy for you to point out any errors in my thinking, or facts that you have to the contrary.

Titan if what you describe was the case then i would have no trouble with him leaving, but I find the failure of Mitch and his manager to engage with melbourne early to discuss this extremely disappointing, the timing of his retirement and his quick recovery being all to convenient financially for mitch and his manager. He could have stayed on our long term injury list and then possibly asked for a trade at the end of the year, but negotiated an early payout of his next years salary, costing melbourne one of the more financially challenged clubs further $'s that would would not have had to pay out had he left at the end of the year. I find very little in what mitch and his manager has done shows any respect or care for the MFC, it has been about mitch and his wallet and still appears to be.

Yes

Agree totally. Roos said today that the retirement was orchestrated by Mitch's manager. On other occasions it has been mentioned that MFC agreed to the retirement approach to reduce the pressure on Mitch so that he was not constantly being asked about when he was coming back, etc.. So we pay him mega bucks and support him and this is the way he repays that.... I believe his manager has really stuffed this up big time and the papers tomorrow are going to really have a go at mitch for what he is doing it is also going to be quite a lot of people talking about his integrity and the value of him. I thought I recalled his manager saying that he was still acting as mitch's manager until his current contract ends on or around 31st october. I would be very surprised to see mitch continue with this clown as his manager after all the damage and stuffups his made of this so far.

He retired on the 8th of April 2014 and now 5 months later he is back ready to saddle up again. really this needs to be investigated.

I still do not see why the AFL would give us a compo pick, there reason for them to do so, the other clubs are not going to just say give melbourne a compo pick because mitch wants to go to Hawthorn, or Essendon.