King Kunta

Well if he perceives he nor the other players around him have heard the whistle as they all continue to play on that is a very reasonable conclusion.

How dare he apply common sense!

Well the football department think otherwise They're saying Dawes' stock will never be lower and Collingwood are desperate for a Ruckman so it's a classic buy low sell high He's also a key forward from a premiership side who is one of the fittest guys at the club and those types are not to be scoffed at.

Dawes for Martin is practically done

It's evident there is no plan at centre bounces the player's all seem to be on the defensive only trying to stop their man rather than looking for the ball themselves.

Heard he is on the trading block and that a deal with Collingwood is almost done

How boring it must be

Cheers negative Nelly

Adelaide haven't won at the G since round 20 2009, during which we have defeated them twice so I too am fairly optimistic Go you Dees!

And one rated him at 3, but neither were Melbourne football club recruiters so that offers no insight into whether we will take him at 3 or not.

Sounds categoric to me...

Provide some evidence you clown I'm more than happy to be proven wrong, but even if he has said it I'm sure we can take it with a grain of salt due to the circumstances and would not be revealing of his true sentiments

Give me evidence that a member of the football department said they will categorically not take viney at 3 I will save you the trouble and tell you there won't be any. It's about 3 months till the draft so they wouldn't be dead set on their rankings yet.

No it hasn't...

Yeah plus you could tell his ankle was worrying him and his mobility wasn't there. Also having his number one target in Amendola free of injury, working out of the slot position will go a long way in keeping the chains moving.

Watched him in the national champs, and although effective at that level he won't have anywhere the AFL career of viney. He's a tiny bloke even in comparison to Viney and certainly doesn't have the stocky build of Jack. Plus Viney will bring along intangibles that many don't possess. Although he may not be top 5 in terms of his skills set, his work ethic and hunger for the contest will spread through the playing group like wildfire which makes him deserving of a number 4 pick

This year's draft was previously overhyped and people are starting to realise it's not a superdraft and not to dissimilar to drafts of recent years. Also your point on 3 or 4 other viney's is ludicrous, I would dare to say there is not one player in the draft similar to the way he plays and if there is they are certainly not up to his standard. Viney would be step 1 to changing the lackadaisical culture amongst many of the players.

Good to see another long suffering Demons\Rams fan condemned 84! I'm reasonably optimistic about our fortunes this year the Defensive line (Quinn, Langford, Brockers, Long) we have put together along with our cornerbacks (Finnegan and Jenkins) provides the makings for a very strong defence. But the fortune of the season will be down to the offensive line and whether they can give Bradford time to make a play and open up some holes for Jackson

I would be confident Jeff Kennett would have been involved in the piece as he is the Chairman of Beyondblue Don't know what initiated all his Melbourne hate