chookrat

In hindsight we should have traded Clarry in 2022. While his trade value might be lower than last year (who knows what Geelong offered and how that compares to GWS) it does privide King and our new Footy Department to set clear expections re standards that will help drive our culture. I suspect the way we handled Oliver since 2022 probably wouldn't sit well with players wanting more time on ball and without moving on Clarry at best we don't develop our young midfield and more likely have players want to leave.

Or perhaps other clubs have a good understanding of the risk they are taking on re Clarry and we need him off our list to move forward. I love a redemption story but there is no way we would be trading Clarey if he was meeting lur expectstions as a professional footballer.

Perhaps a middle ground is that we accept picks 7 and 8 for Trac, don't provide GCS with the required picks to secure both of their academy players, they draft one and we draft the other, and then in 12 months time see if us/GCS want to do a trade involving Humphrey for their academy pick. BOOM!

By the looks of it the absolute worst outcome would be to keep Oliver on our list. In the AFL he would take up an onball position at the expense of a Langford, Windsor or Rivers, and there is no point having him run around in the VFL without even considering the likelihood of him relapsing if he is not getting games at the top level. It feels like we are walking a tightrope of trying to retool our list without going into a rebuild. To do this we need to turn the Petracca, Oliver and McVee picks into under 25 year old talent, get their money off our TPP and free up cap space so we can chase free agents over the next few years. I'd be happy to keep Trac if the club feels he will fully buy into the new Footy Department and not request a trade next year, but if we feel he will go no matter what then we are pribably best of getting the best deal we can which means trading him this year.

Unless you are posting this from the toilets then I don't believe you.

Demon Forever was on the toilet yesterday, twice.

I wonder if Humphrey has stumbled along Demonland yet?

I don't think Trac staying is untenable, as we have an entirely new Footy Department, CEO and President, however there is a risk that if he stays that he won't be 100% invested in our direction which will negatively impact our young core of players, and still wants a trade at the end of 2026 only to be worth less in any trade and cost us $1 million in TPP for 2026. Our list management team will have a good handle on this.

This is more exciting than the year where De Joey stayed and McStay go'ed.

Taking the [censored] on how much me and the rest of us nuffies on here are hanging on every sign re Humphrey. Robbo loves the club and is well connected but probably not spending every moment of the past week worrying about Humphrey like we are.

Saw Russell Robertson with his son at basketball yesterday. He looked happy and didn't seem to be carrying the weight/burden of someone who didn't know whether Humphreys will be at the Dees next year. Take from that what you will.

Can @Demon Forever at least update us on whether his source has accepted the invitation?

For all we know he already has but it has been kept between us and the Suns until the trade is agreed to. Both clubs might be 80% settled on a deal but it makes everyone look bad if the trade is requested and the deal doesn't get done.

100% OD. Imagine if us nuffies on Demonland were negotiating trades 😅, after one season clubs would either refuse to negotiate with us or not take our position seriously.

If by standards and culture you mean farms, then yes I agree with you.

#freehumphrey

Fully agree, except rather than say we will find another club tell them we can revisit the trade next year. Trac has asked to explore his options rather than us wanting to trade him.

I would spend a couple of days stewing over whether to write a disapproving letter to the club and then do nothing. My auto renew membership.would continue as though nothing happened.

Would the 36ers part with him for picks 7 and 8

Ask Neil what the chances of both Trac staying and us landing Humphreys

Looks like we have really bolstering our development coaching ranks. Hopefully this allows us to better develop our full list of players.

Not a bad idea. There could be a win win where we offload May's salary from our books (while GWS can offset it against Aleers) and leaves us in a better position to pay a greater portion of Olivers salary.

All good, we are playing 4D chess

I don't think it's that black and white DeedleDumb, I can see a realistic scenario where Trac stays. We are a better side with him playing amd he is a contracted player.

I reckon throw in Jibba as a sweetener to get Humphreys across the line.