Lucifers Hero

Wouldn't that be a reason to come to Melbourne?

That is what I meant!

Does anyone else think the very rare (only a couple of other cases in world sport) torn tendon in his (Watson's) hip could somehow be a result of the cocktail of drugs Essendon pumped into him. Can't be proven but you have to wonder.

You would think that those players no longer at Essendon will break ranks as soon as the Federal Court hears the Essendon/Hird claim on June 27.

They don't owe Essendon any loyalty and there is no risk of being delisted/not played/ostracised by mates etc. I can't see the likes of Monfries being out for 1 minute longer than necessary if there is a premiership on the horizon.

Wouldn't be surpised if these players get their own legal counsel and go their own way. AFLPA won't be happy but those players need to look after themselves. They might take the 6 months then sue Essendon anyway. No downside at all.

Change of scenery, coached by Roos, up and coming team, best mate plays for us, likely improved salary, playing footy in Melbourne, home at the G, WA teams don't have the resources to trade for him...

It's not that hard to think of more reasons why he'd want to come.

I think he is still dating Mark Williams' daughter.

Roos said a few players were tiring so a few changes wouldn't surprise as Ess have a 7 day break and we have 5. The 5 days vs 7 may make it tough for us to win.

Even if Roos doesn't coach in 2016 he has made it clear he stay at the MFC in another role. Roos is a man of integrity and character. He won't go back on that.

Calling Roos a gun-for-hire is probably the biggest insult anyone could level at Paul Roos. Barrett has stooped to new lows - somewhere below the gutter. He would have to consult a dictonary to understand 'integrity' and 'character'. He is a despicable being!

FWIW frawleys management is telling the hawks $650k. Source I have is from within the hawks footy dept. and hawks aren't prepared to pay, So it appears he is hawking himself around. interestingly Nathan fyfe is asking $800k. This person didn't mention the hawks attitude to that one.

Apparently, Fremantle turned down his manager's ask price of $700K. Looking like he can't chase a flag in the short-term and have the big money! 800k...700k...650k...? His manager seeming a bit of a dill.

Melbourne may not want to match any offers! Guess it will depend on the comp pick...unfortunately as his price goes down so does his comp pick.

https://au.news.yahoo.com/video/watch/24192436/reunion-for-demons-glory-days/

A segment from Ch 7 news last night.

Enjoy!

Hi All, I would like to have a copy of this news video on my computer but can't seem to find a way of saving the video . Can anyone help with how to do this. Cheers.

If we drop Gawn for balance now, who goes out when Hogan is fit?

Frawley! He will probably be going, going, gone by then!

Roos re Frawley on mfc website today:

“At the moment, it’s fine. We know where James is coming from,” he said.

“We’re just sitting back and [we’ll] wait and see. In terms of your overall planning and where our money goes, and whether you go draft or free agency, [the] backend of the year is fine.

“Hopefully he decides sooner rather than later, but I’m not fazed by it, at the moment. I think he’s enjoying his footy and he’s enjoying being around the club and if we continue to improve, hopefully he’ll stay.”

This is looking as if the club isn't going to fight too hard to keep him. Both Roos (a few weeks ago) and Barlett (today) said they are staying out of his negotiations. Nice if he stays but... To me it reads as if the club is happy to take the extra draft pick rather than throw money at him as a free agent. Would the club be so bold as to make him a fair (but maybe low-end) offer so that he 'has' to go?

Good food-for-thought for Frawley and his manager, eh!

He is getting to the stage where he does not 'own' a spot in the team so for mine, I'm happy to see him go.

Dawes's work rate is always A1 and had to play against 2 or 3 today but it seems that his only trick is to run flat out on the lead in a straight line. The result is that he ends up too far from goal. Its also too predicatable, too easy to intercept and too easy for 3rd man up.

Today he wasn't helped by the slow delivery and no small players at his feet. But I feel he needs to me able to mix it up a bit - stand and use his body a bit more or outsmart his opponent a little as to when and where he runs.

Today, it seemed that there was no real teamwork on the forward line; this goes for the talls and the smalls that played there. It looked as if there were so many talls the smalls were told to stay out of there.

Why did he come out and say this stuff?

He is quoted as saying: "It's all very well to come in and say we need to model ourselves on the New York Yankees etc…” so maybe the ideas are from a consultant’s report? I wouldn’t be surprised if CW somehow got it (from the consultants??), then quizzed GB. Probably difficult for GB to say 'no comment' and maybe he isn't used to how CW can 'construct' a 'newsworthy' story.

Am guessing that some of the 'quotes' are based on stuff she had waiting to cut-and-paste and snippets she has picked up and now manages to construct an article that will only bring heat on us especially if other 'journo's' start quoting it.

She had to write something to deflect from another Tigers thrashing!!

Like I said earlier lets give GB/the Club the benefit of the doubt and wait to hear it from the horse's mouth.

https://au.news.yahoo.com/video/watch/24192436/reunion-for-demons-glory-days/

A segment from Ch 7 news last night.

Enjoy!

Sorry to quote myself but just realised this may the only recorded rendition of the 1964 GF team singing the club song.

https://au.news.yahoo.com/video/watch/24192436/reunion-for-demons-glory-days/

A segment from Ch 7 news last night.

Enjoy!

The really good stuff:

-Changing the lackadaisical approach off-field (even if trivial things like ties and uniforms)

-PJ to sign on till end of 2015

-The ANZAC Eve Richmond game (An idea: maybe they could play for a ‘Checker Hughes’ trophy? )

-The development academy

-Watching the Melbourne Demons play Aussie Rules at the MCG a ‘must do’ for tourists visiting Melbourne ala us going to NY and watching the Yankees at Yankee stadium.

The seemingly not so good stuff:

-Ties, uniforms, blazers – see lackadaisical comment above.

-Changing the song…me thinks it means include the name ‘Melbourne’ not change the whole thing

-Casey alliance – A shame it has come up as there is no reason to risk getting them off- side now.

-Collins st presence – he does say this is a personal thought. Maybe he has been chatting with the City of Melbourne to do something together.

He is quoted as saying: "It's all very well to come in and say we need to model ourselves on the New York Yankees etc…” so maybe the ideas are from a consultant’s report? I wouldn’t be surprised if CW somehow got it (from the consultants??), then quizzed GB. Otherwise, would he really choose this method and timing to releasing such info?

Let’s cut him/the club some slack until we hear it from the horse’s mouth!

Thanks all for the 17-4-10 info!.

WOW! I had forgotten the number of premierships he accumulated as a coach! Doubt any other player/coach will ever come close to 17-4-10.

Yes, Great day!

Was able to get Barassi's autograph (and a much cherished photo with him ). He put his number 31 on, then wrote the number 17410. Anyone have any ideas what 17410 might be?

Having Roos gives us a mighty advantage before we even take the field in a very intangible way. There wouldn't be many coaches, if any, who think they can outcoach Roos.

Loved the way Roos described Riley's inclusion and starting him on the field: really needed the hard, tough stuff from the get go and stun the Tigers. It worked! Loved the way he moved the team around a bit this year and how its worked. His thinking/moves make it much harder for opp coaches to plan their match ups etc Unpredictability is a great thing in footy.

Now not only do opp coaches need to work out how to beat the players they need to think about how to beat Roos. Tall order indeed! Especially for the 12+ coaches that have never coached with him or against him!

Pyschology doing its thing!

Won't it be good to see Viney go up against best mate Wines!

Not sure if I heard right but I think Nathan Jones has a baby on the way due around the time of the Port game and he has said he will be at the birth. But if bubs born early in the week he will play.

It may be the case that Essendon forfeit the rest of the season, or else field a rump side that gets thrashed by 30 goals a game as seen so often in minor competions.

Agreed. Take the 6 month bans. This combined with out-or-court settlement for player claims would be the cleanest outcome. Everyone moves on.

While I want to see cheats punished I don't want to see this dark cloud hang over the game for years and years. While watching Essendon be brought to its knees would be good theatre. a clean, quick settlement is what I'm hoping for (should infraction notices be issued).

If infraction notices get issued (and players suspended) then if Essendon and AFL have any sense they would settle all claims for loss of earnings/damages etc by players out of court thereby eliminating extended, drawn out legal proceedings and the need for lawyers.

ASADA won't let it get to infraction notices stage if they don't have a watertight case in which case Essendon would have to think long and hard before going to court.

You would have to think that if watertight infraction notices get issued there isn't much wriggle room for Hird/Essendon. They could claim the the 'rogue' scientist ie Danks was the problem and then they would have to sue him.

Now that would be a sight to see and we could sit back and watch the fireworks!

My source says they've been ready for weeks, and that the weird bit about it from his end is that the govt. are interfering with it now.

They will go.

No coincidence that Essendon's recent #1 ticket holder was also Treasurer in the last Liberal Federal Government! Boys Club!

Massive opportunity here

i guess you mean 3 in a row

If Lynch was roughly upright his shoulder would have gone into Viney's head as he is much taller than Viney. It was Georgiou's tackle dragging Lynch down which caused Viney to connect with Lynch.

If the proscecutor, Gleeson, can mount the side-step argument surely our legal team can demonstrate it was the tackle, which Viney could not have seen nor aniticpated as his eyes were on the ball.

Bit surprised our legal people didn't highlight this to the Tribunal. Hate to say it but feel a bit let down by our legal reps last night.

ps

Regardless of the appeal outcome this is my last word on this sad and sorry episode.