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Hooray!!!!

I find that quite surprising! I would have thought every club would get its players (at least its leadership team) to as many GF as possible. Partly to make them hungry and partly for them to experience the atmosphere and hype so that when they get there is a bit of familiarity. Not to mention they might learn a thing or two about finals football. WCE looked a bit overwhelmed yesterday...many of them had never been to a GF either! At least we got Jesse there yesterday in the 1st motorcade!

Freo would have to think long and hard before they take him. They couldn't turn bad boy Sylvia around so don't like their chances with Bennell. Sylvia was an angel in comparison and didn't cost them anything; GC will want a 1st rnd pick for Bennell Buyer Beware!

All this noise about $$ just makes him look very mercenary. Surely, he realises a club wants to know he is passionate about them and what he brings to them. Convince them you love where their club is going and that you will work your butt off to get there and the $$ follow. His manager has led everyone a merry dance all year, time to end the charade. And if JH only cares about $$ he is not a good fit for us.

At least someone remembered to celebrate Adam Goodes on Grand Final day: A Lap Of Honour For Sydney Swans Legend Adam Goodes It's left up to a newbie, obscure mag. The 'lap of honour' photos are terrific and say a lot about the man. It will be interesting to see if the AFL does anything during today's motorcade to recognise him. It will be a shame if he 'goes quietly into the night'. A final goodbye is greatly deserved.

With the Mighty Dees in the 8 just like Port 2013 and doggies 2015

That is great news for us...I guess that means he will be with us till end of 2017? Or is that till end 2018? If he signed more than a week ago it shows McCartney was awake to EFC's faux selection process! I'm glad Macca isn't going there. He is too good for them. They wouldn't hesitate to take him in then spit him out if it suits. They have form: Sheedy, Knights, Bomber and (thankfully) Hird. Talking of coach selection processes. How well have Adelaide handled it! Both the selection of the late Phil Walsh and the apparent appointment of Pyke were clear targetting of a candidate. They got their men. No faux, media spin process for them. Great respect for Adelaide this year.

Is that a connection to the article referred to by 'Pink Freud' in the 'Luke Parker' thread?

You have a bit of cheek 'rjay'...telling the erudite man of letters, how to structure a paragraph! I do agree tho, I like Ernest's posts but some spacing etc will help.

Apparently Port are talking 3rd rnd; we are talking 2nd. Even tho he hasn't had a good time of it he is still one of my fave players so like others, I would love to see him be given another year. We Certainly can't let him go for next to nothing - their 3rd rnd will be around pick 50! The warm to hot rumours are we get Kennedy and Melksham and lose Howe and Toumpas. What the net result with picks is I have no idea. I sure hope our recruiting/coaching team pull a few rabbits out of the hat because I feel incredibly underwhelmed. I hope we land that 'big fish' otherwise I can't see much net improvement next year.

Re the comments on this being a shallow draft. From what I have read it is 'shallow' after the top 6-10. So the #10 to #25+ are perceived to be relatively even with very good players available in that range So 'shallow' doesn't mean 'poor'. This may result in more 'strategic' trading of picks than in past years as Clubs drop themselves down the pecking order. Going into the trade/draft with pick 6, 24, 25 and #20 something for Howe, is a strong position to be in.

Seriously, they weren't the only ones! Remember the medical (drug test) records, that turned up on a street in Ivanhoe, of AFL players from a nearby club? Who did the only AFL player suspended for 3 strikes play for? Remember the anti Nick Davis vitriol when he spoke up about drugs in the AFL All this happened in the mid 2000's. What has been reported today about WCE has been known for a long time. Its just another low life act by the HS to try and unsettle their team and get Hawthorn over the line tomorrow. I bet the HS have a heap of stories in the closet to do a 'beat up' when it suits...Harley Bennell story for example.

I can't get behind HS's paywall but this is the intro: 'MELBOURNE’S wretched run with top draft picks is set to continue, with Jimmy Toumpas being chased by a trade-hungry Port Adelaide'. Power have shown they are fair traders and play the trade game with goodwill so if Power are doing the chasing we may get a good value trade.

Both the Dees and EFC had horrendous seasons during his 4 years as a Mentor/Director. Not saying he was at fault but it is clear he wasn't able to affect the performance of the coaching groups. Not sure how or why Carlton expect a different result. Good luck to them...may they spend many more years anchored at the bottom end of the ladder. It may be karma's way of punishing them for 'not tanking' and not 'bringing the game into disrepute'. On topic...can't wait for Worsfold to be appointed so we are certain to have Macca for at least another year.

After all the pages on DL devoted to 'we should have taken Wines over Toumpas' and Port end up with both of them... ...ha ha...the ultimate irony!! Only at Melbourne!

At first glance this is a 'feel good' article about Salem. http://www.melbournefc.com.au/news/2015-09-30/salem-no-longer-hamstrung-by-injury But some things I found interesting about his hamstring injury: -he pulled up sore after week 6. -the next week (7) he tore his hamstring when he played on: "Brad Hill, Cyril Rioli and Paul Puopolo in that first quarter...they were coming on fresh each time [off the interchange] and just blew me up.” -Then Salem says: “Looking at the GPS numbers a couple of days after the game I did more long distance sprints in that first quarter than a normal game average for me, which is ridiculous.” -And: "After reinjuring his hamstring again at training..." It surprises me all the coaches/medical staff couldn't see he was doing a lot of long distance sprints against fresh players...do they really need a GPS to tell them? And why wasn't he getting rotations, especially after being sore, a 2nd year player and playing on speedy players? And why were we told the 2nd hamstring injury was in the 'other' leg not the same hamstring? Maybe we weren't as conservative managing young players as we should have been.

...TDI...with fan boy comments for the players and vitriol for disagreeing posters! If it is Saty I will really cop it now!

Buddy! And if there is any truth to the rumours surrounding both players their OM is almost identical as is the path to the current eerily similar predicaments.

...but Satyr wouldn't 'Like' each and every one of his own posts

'The Devil Inside'? Has someone hijacked Satyr's moniker? Or is that Satyr making a fresh start?

A good throwaway line 'ManDee'...obviously its not possible to make a future event fact. My hypothesis was: there is a miniscule chance JM will not be available for rnd 1, 2016 because: - Not all 34 players will get the same ban...some will get a lighter ban eg 6/12 mnths - JM is one with a lighter ban (MFC would have checked if he was one of the 2 with 'abnormal' TB4) - He has served 6 months already. - He can serve 6 more months if he takes another 'voluntary' suspension thru this off-season. Where is the fault in the rationale? The point really is that the CAS related risk of taking JM is very low. Not saying it applies to you but lots of generalisations on here about player suspensions often based on wishful thinking and are looking at time banned rather than games missed. Out of interest, how many games do you think JM will miss?

I wonder why the 34 EFC players haven't taken another 'voluntary' suspension, just in case. Added to the 6 months already it means a 1 year 'voluntary' suspension would have been served pre rnd 1 2016. (Maybe they have/will and EFC/AFL will make it public after the GF). Note: players can still train with their club while in 'voluntary' suspension. Those on here that assume the 'worst possible case' ie all 34 will get (the same) 2 years with no backdating and no credit for any 'voluntary' suspension are unrealistic. Here is my rationale as to why:- - 2 of 34 players were found to have 'abnormal' levels of TB4. - I can see these 2 players getting a 1 or 2 year ban and the others getting a lighter 6mnth/1 year ban. - Any ban may include backdating and will include credit for 'voluntary' suspension served. People may not like that suspensions are served in the off-season but those are the rules. I trust MFC to know if JM is 1 of the 2 with 'abnormal' TB4...safe to think he is not. So if my rationale is correct he would get a lighter penalty (if any at all). The backdating and credits would see him available for rnd 1 2016. If he comes to us I hope MFC encourage him to take another 6 month 'voluntary'. Even so, IMHO there is a miniscule risk that he will not be available to line up in round 1 2016. If you think otherwise, please read this post again.

That article is one of the more realistic commentary I've read about a Jeremy trade. This part caught my eye: "It is understood the high-flyer remains open to a move outside Victoria to continue his football career if there is no progress in his negotiations with Melbourne...His girlfriend, Kahlia Ashton, is from Perth and he has family in the city, strong ties that would weigh in favour of a move west."That increases my confidence that he might get traded and Freo is more likely to offer us a decent trade than Collingwood would.

And they are, please?

Bernie was 17th in the Brownlow. ie Top 20. This vindicates the coaches selection of him in their AA Team. Confirms what we all know that he is one of the best in the AFL. Well done for a great season.