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You are right there PG...some people are getting to far ahead. I feel that any extension is a good one. He is currently contracted to end 2017. So a 3 yr extension ends in 2020, 5 year in 2022 etc. You know, I would be happy for a 3-5 year extension because if we haven't been in a few GF's by 2020 or won one by 2022I wouldn't blame him for going elsewhere. Clearly he wants success and he seems prepared to make it happen. By 2020 or 2022 he will have earnt the right to leave (altho it would be shattering).

A few journos have reported this week that contract talks are up and running. (Really, they started last Oct and never really stooped) Either they are all jumping on the bandwagon or something is afoot. Just in case people can't get behind the paywall of the Denham article in the last post, here is some dialogue from Roos this week, who plays it with his usual straight bat: Earlier in the week Roos said Hogan’s tenure at Melbourne could depend on factors outside the control of the club, but said the Demons remained comfortable with their position and the future on offer for their younger players. One example Melbourne used this week was their beefed-up development program, including a massive increase in staff, something that had been largely overlooked before chief executive Peter Jackson secured Roos in his first year in the job. “We have delivered on things we have talked about,” Roos told the AFL website. “The next phase is probably for Jesse to feel part of this resurgence. “It is up to Jesse to believe (success will come) but also be comfortable in Victoria and Melbourne and with his friends and things like that, so some things we can control, some things we can’t.” Following a briefing with Melbourne late last year, Hogan said he was satisfied with the direction of the club, now in the final year of a coaching succession plan that will lead to Simon Goodwin taking over at the end of the season. The talk back at the time of the RS award was that Hogan would re-sign over the summer. His manager hosed it down which was fair enough. Could it be that talks have started in earnest and he will sign before the season starts? But as Roos said it is all up to Jesse. All looks very promising but with remnants of MFCSS still looming large in me I shall wait till we have his signature before getting too excited.

Dare we hope? http://www.theaustralian.com.au/sport/afl/hogan-all-class-as-dees-reach-for-chequebook/news-story/4bfb8723db382eca3b357bc2c6e693b8 Denham says: "Family members have confirmed to The Weekend Australian that Hogan has no intention of returning home to Western Australia in the near future which appears certain to lead to a new deal with the Demons". Denham has for a long time treated mfc with great contempt so I am no fan of his. He sinks the boots in every chance he gets. But he is from WA and still has good contacts over there so I am inclined to believe him on this one!! Fingers crossed!

Clearly the work of a troll! Purple has a good track record with rumours but if that is what he is relying on for his source he has slipped down very badly.

Roos just interviewed now on SEN: - no injuries today...one small niggle but I didn't catch who it was. - Gawn terrific today. - Salem in best 3 today (maybe BOG) along with VanD and Tyson. - Kennedy and Bugg played well today and performance have spiked since Christmas. They are both 'competitors' - Oliver was fantastic around the ball. Weidman was very smart in the forward line...(I think he meant he has good footy IQ). - Casey players did well...Plapp doing a great job and they got our game plan really well. - Need to temper Melb supporter fans' expectations of Hogan...it is only his second year and needs to be a team effort. - Consistency of mids to improve for us to be more dangerous.

I would think so. In a similar role Tom Lynch hovers forward of the defensive 50 so doesn't do too much 'forward pressure' work but had a terrific 2015 - from afc website: 'He kicked 32 goals for the season but also worked hard to bring his teammates into the game. Lynch led the League for goal assists (30) and was equal-fifth for total score involvements (159)'. Given we went so hard to get Lynch it seems that forward/link-up player is seen as a key role and it looks like Watts is being groomed for that. If so, it is a lot easier understand how so many tall forwards Hogan, Frost, Watts, Pedo/Dawes/Weideman and resting ruckman can fit in the forward line. Also, the link-up role is essential if we are to be more offensive in our game plan and that seems a perfect role for Watts, his skill set and footy IQ. Can't think of a better person for the job!

Melbourne FC ‏@melbournefc 1h1 hour ago A nice passage of play: Kennedy runs down the wing and finds Hogan. He quickly turns and pops the ball to Harmes. Harmes slots the set shot. Given the bro love between Hogan and Harmes both would have enjoyed that piece of play! MFC twitter feed indicates that Watts did some really good things: lead well, good link-up work which ended in a few goals etc. Maybe Watts' forward role will be more like the forward/link-up for which we tried to get Crows' Tom Lynch.

Like the HS, Stevens has embellished what happened. Jesse was gung-ho at the time he won RS (Oct) and sounded genuine but probably had a bit of post RS euphoria about it. Then his manager slowed things down as ProDee has described. Since last Oct, Jesse et al have seen some great drafting, what life will be like with Gooding as coach, a new sponsor come on board, etc. These are all things that give him and his management have greater confidence about the club an its future. Jesse may well sign over the off-season but I'm relaxed if he doesn't as I have no doubt the club is doing everything possible on and off the field for him to want to extend his contract. The club can do no more. Quietly, I reckon Jesse will extend long term

Agreed Saber. The HS are guessing and using old info to fluff out a story. We started discussions with him 5 months ago so no new news on that one. Then everyone decided to wait a while...Jesse had seemed gung-ho but his manager tempered things which was the right thing to do by Jesse. The $700K, who knows where they plucked that from! Not much incentive to sign a long-term deal for someone who is already getting $500K!!! The HS have no idea what is happening at mfc!!

Family Day is on Feb 28: http://www.melbournefc.com.au/news/2016-02-17/family-day-at-luna-park Last year it was in early March. The revenue for Rich/Coll/Haw is massive as a result of high membership numbers. On average a member is worth about $200. Those clubs get an extra 35,000+ members ie $7 million!! Not only that they also get heeps more revenue from members buying merchandising etc. There is further spin offs as they attract more sponsorship $$ who can market to club members. Membership numbers are critical for financial well being and to provide facilities for players. I heard to day that facilities is one of the top drawcards for FA's. Needless to say we need every member we can get.

Not even said tongue-in-cheek od! . No excuses from players anymore!

http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-news/afl-season-2016-paul-roos-yet-to-commit-to-demons-for-2017-20160217-gmw6r4.html Goodwin taking on more game and non-game coaching roles in 2017 was always a given but there are some interesting things in this article. This comment made me chuckle: 'This {the transition} may not stop supporters from urging Roos to remain should the Demons press for finals, or calls for him to step down early should the season not unfold as hoped'. Yes, us DL's are very good at extreme mood swings from one game to the next! We are such a fickle lot! But more interesting were insights on where our team is at: Having assessed their own list and that of rivals, the Demons believe they will have 20 to 23 "good" players this season, up from "13 decent players" in 2013, whom they can rely on each week to perform. Their analysis shows the top-four teams have about 27 whom they can call upon. That is an extraordinary turnaround in list quality. The big gap with the top-four, of course, is in experience but that will come. Also," Internal valuations show there was a 27 per cent discrepancy last season in terms of what could be considered over-payment, but that margin is set to be slashed to 4 per cent this year, meaning, Mahoney said, "we are getting to the stage of paying the players what they are worth". Going from 27% to 4% 'overpayment' in one year is absolutely huge. I suspect that as a few highly paid player contracts expire this year that 'overpayment will disappear altogether - a very good position from which to manage our list and salary cap. (Just as long as they leave plenty for Jesse ) These show how hard Mahoney and Roos have worked behind the scenes to right the ship from a list admin perspective. From the article, I got the impression Roos may like to stay at mfc but Mahoney's comment caused me to doubt he will be invited to. I guess we have to think about the $1+m we save. Now we need the icing on the cake: players to do their job!!

28,759 today. While that is up on same time last year (26,592 on Feb 16) it is really disappointing that we have added only 2,500 since before Christmas. It shows how critical it is to win games to win back the hearts and wallets of the general supporter. Maybe it is only us diehards on DL's who are optimistic about our prospects. Hopefully, the upcoming Family Day at Luna Park gives it a decent boost.

Schools warned not to use banned players "Victorian schools have been warned not to use the banned 34 Essendon players in any coaching or mentoring capacity even if it is unpaid work...The warning to schools came after one leading grammar school in Melbourne sought clarification from the AFL if they could use one of the 34 players in their football program". WOW! I'm gobsmacked! What symbolic message is this so called 'leading' school giving students: its ok to cheat, its ok to take drugs! Can they not see the danger? I wonder what the parents think? Crickey, I'm beginning to wonder if it is only DL's who keep fighting the good fight, for drug free sport!

Obviously not disgraced in the eyes of the benefactor. And maybe it wasn't for the benefit of the club...re read my post just before yours...its the most logical explanation...

By all accounts Little and Hird weren't very buddy, buddy towards the end and neither was the AFL with Hird. I tend to think a coterie member put up the $750k... you know one of the influential type that miraculously 'convinced' Charter, Alavi etc not to testify at the AFL Tribunal. If my hunch is right, never fear, they will likely call in the favour one of these day, then Hird will pay his dues. Nobody stumps up $750K cool ones for no reason ... we may not hear about it but whoever it was will want to collect from the teflon one

A good insight into how well the club is managing his rehab and expectations: http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-news/melbourne-demons-jack-trengove-takes-step-to-afl-comeback-20160215-gmv0gx.html "Melbourne will still not publicly discuss a timeline for Trengove to come back as an AFL player. But if the next few weeks go without incident, Trengove will return to full training". My favourite part: "Melbourne are daring to think, not dream, that former co-captain Jack Trengove will resume his AFL career." Its a journo comment not from the club nonetheless some real reason to be optimistic.

SEN is reporting that Hawthorn are looking for Fitzy to replace Roughead. He is another guy who will be better for being in a high quality team. He can enjoy some wins, heaven knows any player who battled away with the Dees during the hard times then let go, deserves everything the game can give him. I fully understand and support why we let him go but he has always been one of my faves and would love for him to get a long run in the seniors with the Hawks.

I just read the comments below White's pics - some extracts to warm the heart of an ardent Dee's supporter: JW: I asked him what number he would wear and he said 34 haha Robbo: Son of a gun; JW: Love right there bro Fan: Sign him up now Dees, can't wait to see Jeff's 3 boys playing for the Dee's. Fan: Good boy jeffy, he'll have a premiership medal, something you deserve Great banter! Let's hope Kalani (and his brothers) choose AFL!

Great picks. That they came from Jeff's wife and he posted this message: My wife just sent me these of Kalani and I, what do you think Dees fans would suggest that if the kid wants an AFL career they want him to be a Demon!! Yes, another F/S on the way!!

For those inquiring about the intra-club match, this is from mfc website: MELBOURNE will hold an intra-club/match simulation session on Friday morning at Casey Fields. The hit-out will start at 9:45am. This will be in preparation to Melbourne’s NAB Challenge opener against Port Adelaide at Playford Alive Oval, Elizabeth on Saturday, February 27 (1:35pm). Friday morning will feature a combination of match practice and skills training. The Casey Demons will also hold a BBQ on the day.

Here is a nice little update about training today: Jack Trengove takes major step forward, but two Dees injured at training Some snippets: - An upbeat Trengove, 24, trained alongside his teammates through almost the entire two-and-a-half hour session, before exiting Gosch's Paddock when match simulation started ... Trengove looked sharp in the full ground ball movement drills and received plenty of encouragement from teammates. - While Trengove's presence on the track was a sight for sore eyes for Demons supporters, apparent ankle injuries to Tom Bugg and Dean Terlich were not. - Jack Watts was back in full training after a modified fortnight period of rehab, due to a sore knee. - However, skipper Nathan Jones was absent. - Christian Petracca (toe) and Heritier Lumumba (ankles) continued their rehab programs away from the main group. - The highlight of Monday's session came from youngster Jayden Hunt whose superb chase down tackle is exactly why he is considered a smoky for round one. Very encouraging for Jack and absolutely fab for Jayden!

http://www.afl.com.au/news/2016-02-15/jack-trengove-takes-major-step-forward-but-two-dees-injured-at-training?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=RSS+feed%3A+AFL+Latest+News A few steps closer: "Trengove looked sharp in the full ground ball movement drills and received plenty of encouragement from teammates. He ran hard to receive the footy when going forward and on a number of occasions pushed back with purpose into defence...Match practice remains the only hurdle left in the luckless midfielder's bid to return to the football field via the NAB Challenge or the season proper". Go Jack!

DC, I found this from the AFL: The Essendon 34 appeal: Frequently asked questions Extract: Is the case really going to be conducted in French? Oui. Yes. We're waiting for official confirmation of procedures from the Swiss court, but from what we've been told all the documentation so far has had to be translated into French.