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We went in with a 'fill needs' rather than 'best available' mindset. The club probably figured we had their skill sets covered and preferred to bring in a future 3rd round pick instead of drafting either. The club would already be planning next year's trade/draft so see value in an extra pick or two in 2022. That doesn't mean the club didn't rate them just not for us at this time.

Yes, Fritsch was voted second best by all judges: Luke Hodge (Chair) – C Petracca, B Fritsch, C Oliver. Harry Taylor – C Petracca, B Fitsch, C Salem. Tania Armstrong – C Petracca, B Fritsch, C Oliver. Andrew Krakouer – C Petracca, B Fritsch, C Daniel. Callum Twomey – C Petracca, B Fritsch, C Oliver. On any other day the medal would be with Bayley. We could have won if he didn't kick 6. But, I doubt we would have won if Petracca hadn't put on his "I'm not going to let us lose this game" face and then went to town.

They can get in to Victoria but won't get back into WA without 2 weeks quarantine. As there is only a few weeks training before the Christmas break it makes sense that they stay in WA until January training starts.

What a wonderful draft result for us! Particularly that we started with just picks 37, 49 and 57 to which we added 17 before the draft started. We went out to fill 'needs' and that we did with: Jacob van Rooyen Blake Howes Taj Woewodin Andy Moniz-Wakefield (will automatically become a B Rookie) That Howes (and so many others) slid down the order shows the draft was, as predicted by observers, very even and it shows that many clubs went very early into 'fill needs' mode than 'best available' mode. All the better for us! Given we (and others) were strongly linked to Howes with our first round pick, one could say we drafted two first rounders for the price of one! How (no pun intended) valuable was that pick swap of our 2022 first for pick 17 this year! And, as a bonus we collected two 2022 picks by trading out what started out as picks 49 and 57 which otherwise would have gone unused: 3rd round from Adelaide (and I think tied to Adelaide; low 40 to mid 50 range) 4th round from St Kilda (but not sure which team it is tied to; mid 50 to mid 60 range). Some might think they are 'lowly' picks but they are not something to be sneezed at. They will be valuable currency next year. I can't see us using either pick as Taylor just doesn't do low order draft picks very often. More likely deal sweeteners for trades, help F/S, Academy teams, help us get back into the first round or move up the order. And we traded in Dunstan. Given that the majority of our Premiership Team is contracted for quite a few years, I hope we can find room in the 22 to get these (and prior draftees) games. First class off-season list management for the reigning Premiers🏆🎏

They did and worked well when the rest of us were in lockdown and they were in bubbles. The number of positive cases in the AFL world is increasing which is really no surprise now that we have opened up. Apparently, a positive case went to last night's draft at Marvel. Probably fromone of the clubs who have staff or players diagnosed as positive: Essendon, Richmond, Carlton. But the show will go on: afl-intent-on-forging-on-in-2022-despite-prospect-of-regular-covid-19-cases As long as a club can field a team they will be expected to front up and play. In a way it will be harder for clubs to negotiate the covid landscape next year than during the lockdown years. One would think a rapid test before anyone enters a club building or club training will be sensible and mandatory.

The wrong dictionary for an Italian word. Even in writing 'Capeesh' grates! Forget 'capiche' altogether! LD-vC's alter ego, Dante (the now deceased, real life one not the DL one) 'created' the Italian language as it is know today. I reckon LD-vC knows his stuff.

His dad managed to get a Premiership scarf... I reckon young Jacob had it for the Finals. His family was very pumped for him to get to us. The man at the back in the video was like an expectant father when he knew the next bid was the Dees.

We can use our next available pick which currently is about pick 80 something. I doubt it will come to that unless we trade out two of our three remain picks. Even then I think we would ensure we had a pick left in a 'respectable' range to take Taj. Not exactly sure about the rules but by nominating him as a F/S we should take him in the main draft rather than a subsequent draft.

Maybe as his second team and he had the 'Away' jumper already or someone delivered that jumper late last night. Why would we have arranged an 'Away' jumper for him, I wonder. His dad has the right colours!

I read somewhere that Carlton could be interested in moving their pick 27 and they don't have another pick until 56 but iirc they were looking for a future pick in return. We could do it by including a swap of future pics that roughly balances the points and that keeps us within the future pick trading rules (I think...). Some handy players will still be available at 27 and it gets us in ahead of Richmond's pick 28, 29 and 30 and the double picks that WCE and North have in the 30's. Edit: Not sure if Carlton's view of trading #27 has changed since losing Jones.

Snap! Just made the same comment in the 'pick 38' thread.

With Geelong in desperate need of a ruckman and Conway being a local I would be very surprised if he gets past their picks 24, 25, and 35. We would need to pick swap into the mid-high 20's to get him, using our picks 38 and 42 if we wanted him.

Quite true. My post was to update DL on the impact in the AFL. Only an infected person has to isolate. Close contacts isolate only until they receive a negative result. Hence why Voss and McPherson weren't at the draft last night. In due course all clubs will have someone test positive. Clubs will have to take extra precautions at training to ensure a player who subsequently tests positive doesn't spread it to other players. At the moment it is off season so minimal close contacts/risk of spreading in the playing group.

Has anyone found an updated draft order listing? Still can't see one on the AFL website... My guess is we now have picks 38, 42 and 50 which will become 49 after Saints match an NGA bid for Owens. Some good value there.

Geelong also in a good spot as they have: 24, 25, 32, 34 and 36 so they could plug their age gap quite quickly especially with this being a very even draft in that 20 to 40 range. Richmond has 28, 29 and 30. Hawthorn also in a good spot with 23 and 26 but their list is a bit of a mess so unlikely to make much impact for a few years.

The AFL cases keep happening. At the Giants, an AFLW and an AFL player test positive. As does Brian Cook, CEO at Carlton. All fully vaccinated.

Can't believe Blake Howes is still on the board, along with other top 20 faves: Butler, Sonsie, Johnson, Goater. Very boring night regarding live-pick trades.

The first draftee will be called soon and other than a news article about draft order there isn't anything useful on the AFL website to track pick swaps or draftees as they are called. One would think all that would be in the 'Draft Hub'. But, no... Edit. Fox have created something rather rudimentary but it is better than nothing afl-draft-live-picks-every-pick-by-every-club-updates-full-draft-order-trades-draft-value-index Would rather check in there every now and then than sit thru endless waffle.

ditch one of the male directors...🤔

Even with the addition of Sally Freeman to our board (giving us two female members) we still don't meet the 40% quota requirement to ensure funding. With an 8 person board we need at least 3.

That is what I said in point 3) of the post you quoted but curiously deleted it from the quoted post 🤔 The deleted part of my post is below. There are many permutations of pick swaps for us and other clubs and yeah giving up pick 17 for two in the low 20's is one.

Lots more on possible pick trades here: latest-news-updates-whispers-live-trades This I found interesting: "Clubs that could trade up into this part of the draft include Brisbane (Picks 16 and 20) and Melbourne (Pick 19), who are considering getting ahead of Essendon (Pick 13) and Port Adelaide (Pick 14) in the order. That’s because all four clubs have been linked to Northern Knights defender Darcy Wilmot, who now looms as hot property in the middle of the draft and could be central to how the rest of the round pans out". Both Lions and Demons have been linked to the same players for a while so it is no surprise to see some jockeying by the two to climb up the order. Not sure we have the currency to out gun Brisbane who still have their 2022 first round pick to play with.

Not directly related to the Dees, but highly likely events (from what I have read): 1) a variety of live-pick trades in the first round and that affect the first round. eg GWS trade out their second pick for future picks. Lions bundle up their first 2 to move up the order, Hawthorn swap 21 and 24 to get another first round pick. Will Geelong bundle up 22 and 23 to get another first round pick. So a few surprises on the cards as to draft order (after the first 4/5) and who slides out of and who bolts in the first round. 2) Freo will be up all night fielding offers for pick 19 (pre F/S); the first pick tomorrow. Players who were in top 20 calculations that have already slid out of the top 20 by at least one of the more notable phantom drafters: Goater, Van Rooyen, Chesser, Draper, Butler. Others might join them. Plenty of clubs will want that pick 19. 3) Low-mid 20 picks will also be valuable for clubs who want a slider. Current holders of those picks are: 20 North Melbourne 21 Hawthorn 22 Geelong 23 Western Bulldogs (highly likely to trade it to Geelong for two 30-something picks) 24 Hawthorn Would be surprised if there isn't a bit wheeling and dealing with that lot!!

Chandler is not on the club's list of rookies to be upgraded submitted to the AFL. If AMW isn't bid on by another team in the main draft we can automatically take him as a B rookie.

I guess that says a lot about his assessment of talent: Knightmare doesn't rate him in the top 50 ranking, yet recruiters have him in the top 20. Hmmm...