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I know mate, but it's a debate that has to happen and it's good on a forum like this that we can discuss deeper issues that I think we can both agree are of concern to all of us. Some have been lucky not to have been directly touched others not so lucky. The education thing is an interesting angle and maybe it can work for some but having seen a mate of mine go through cancer treatment coming out of hospital after a major op and lighting up a smoke a week later, well he is no longer with us. We can be self destructive at times and no amount of education will change that. Your pot smoking mate, yeah I know a few of those as well. It can have some pretty serious long term effects, some seem to get away with it some don't come up so well. A bit like alcohol I guess.

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If your definition of success is stopping more people from taking drugs then it has failed, the problem is growing. This is really good question (what to make legal and what not) and it's this that I have a problem with. Where do you stop? What next? What type of society do we create? I will defer to your greater knowledge on this 'Pennant', but it seems not to be a great issue when you see small time dealers trading pretty openly on the streets of Melbourne.

It was an aberration 'WYL' because it wasn't there the previous 2 years.

Had to head out this morning and missed Joan, love her work. She really has a dip at Denham.

More often than not they turn a blind eye unless it is staring them right in the face, they could spend all day and night arresting users, they know where to look, it's just not good use of resources. Look it's a side issue the big issue is how it effects the people around them and the crime rate, I'm right with you on this.

The law very rarely if ever prosecute users for drug use (to hard) it is usually the side effects such as robbery to support a habit that catches them up. The odd dealer gets caught from time to time to keep things looking good in the press.

Let's wait for the poll. The answer is actually no. He did have the opportunity but signed on for the extra year when he started with us whereas Scully didnt' so he could milk the GWS offer which he did beautifully.

Robbie, it's ok to disagree but I'm not sure what with. Surely you see that we have a big problem now and it is growing, do you have an answer apart from the failed war against drugs. I used to be pretty much black and white about the legalisation route but I'm not so sure how it would work, I'm open to any other solution or variation. One thing is for sure, I don't want to see dealers making money out of anyone else's misery. I feel for you 'Bossdog', I've been involved with and know people in similar positions, but the legalisation angle would mean they at least wouldn't have to steal from family and friends to get supply, it would take the dealers out of the game, but in the end we still have an addict. Will it create more? I don't know. Not an ideal result by any means.

So... you've already had a go at him on another thread, give it a break mate and stop trying to stir up a non issue. I'm happy we've got Trengove, Clark, Hogan and Toumpas and no Scully.

Legal and illegal drugs have a massive impact, our current system hasn't stopped or even impeded this problem. To me that says the current system isn't working so we should try another approach, it might also say there is no answer no matter what we do the problem will keep getting worse. What do you think 'Demonsterative', you have experience in the field so I'm interested. Is there an answer or can we look at minimising harm at best or is it all too hard?

For a minute I thought you meant Tippett (then I looked at the thread title), but that would be something if they did. Really set the cat amongst the pigeons. Could you imagine the look on Tippett's face if he had to go back to Adelaide and play for Port, how about Trigg.....

You mean like Terry didn't for the 'Cotchin Caper'?

I think we will get the answer in the next few weeks when all the footy journo's have logged off until the new year.

Well balanced post 'hoopla', even for an accountant.

I would only worry about the training reports if I knew the personal program Misson has him on, same with Davey. We don't know what they are required to be doing at this stage of the season and both have a history with injury. let's hope they are both tuned and ready to go round one 2013, not pre season 2012.

That's right 'nutbean' and in Robbie's case we did get to see what he would have been like in the State games when he had better players around him he was an absolute stand out. You can judge a player a lot by what opposition supporters say and you would be going to find any that didn't think Robbie was a star.

You're so right there.

Does anyone know if the profit figure included the 700k raised by the foundation hero's or was it a pure trading profit?

Thanks for confirming that , so chances are we might have picked him up at a bargain price.

These are all good questions 'Robbie' and need to be debated, but not from a position of fear. I would say that there are more than 2 sides to the drug debate. They do have a big part to play in all of this "Robbie' and you shouldn't write it off with throw away statement. To have a proper debate all angles need to be considered. You raise some interesting questions about tobacco and alcohol, have you ever heard Bob Newhart's sketch on Sir Walter Raleigh bringing tobacco to England from the new world, very funny, also very cutting about the habit. ...but what is the answer or do you think we are on top of things as they stand now. We have it right.

As has been stated many times, you don't lose pace as a 20yo. Something else, most probable OP was at play. I expect Trengove to establish himself as an A grader in the next couple of years, lets hope he can convert this to elite.

Thanks again for your post 'Tassie Devil', I knew there was some influence placed on the ACT proposal but wasn't sure what or how. Interesting that they involved the Tasmanians.

You're a lucky man 'Robbie'.

Unfortunately even if it was so, that no longer seems to be the case.