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How can Tim & Andy believe that the club didn't know what was going on. A club with a history of lies.

Fletcher has been carrying them for years another couple won't matter...

Dank quietly left Essendon last year amid the fallout from the club's dramatic slide down the ladder. Melbourne Football Club has since knocked him back for a job in its own football department - perhaps a rare stroke of fortune for the tanking-accused Demons. If you have taken notice of the approach our club have taken to rebuild then you would know that there was no way we would employ him. Rare stroke of fortune my a... Craig and Misson know what they are doing and as Craig has been quoted as saying we won't reach the required levels until half way through 2014. Essendon were stupid enough to try and fast track something you can't do (legally and without complications). Even if they are not charged with anything here they are guilty of gross miss management and soft tissue injuries are going to dog that playing list for a long time to come. Bring back a club hero with no coaching experience and this is what you get, someone who listens to the wrong people, someone who appoints the wrong people. ...and where is that DH David King who was lauding the Essendon approach as far superior to ours last pre season. The tortoise and the hare Kingky, a lot of people need to go back and read that one. Including some at our club who have us embroiled in another issue at the moment. ...By the way this wouldn't have been a CS appointment it would have been Misson and/or Craig who turned him down. I hope we can hold these guys along with Neeld for quite a time yet.

Guilty or not there is obviously an issue at Essendon of who is in control. As I posted on another thread doing an analysis of them as one their supporters so kindly did of us Hird has surrounded himself with insiders, his mates. There are divisive people in senior positions (one well known to us) because of Hird and as I said then and say again now it could well be his downfall. Couldn't happen to a nicer club. On another point, how will the players who took the whatever it was be identified? If there is action to be taken how will the culprits be punished, is there a record or will the club have to name a list...bet we could list who wouldn't be on it, Hurley, Watson, Heppel...

Just a sideline issue but with Dank and the weapon's involvement with Manly do the Storm get their premierships back?

These guys have a history of lies, in fact it was so bad that Patrick Smith gave away a lifetime of support in protest. I wouldn't think you trust anything that comes from the mouths of Robson, Hird, Thompson or Evans.

Very ethical holding secret meetings in the Presidents office to get rid of Knights and take over his job, then denying everything.

He was becoming the let out option because of his decision making and kicking skills. Opposition coaches saw this and worked to cut him out when we played them. It wasn't during a game it was pre game planning and the defensive forward was going to Watts.

Watts was causing enough grief last year for opposition coaches to start playing a defensive forward on him. I think he will be a difficult match up this year and really step it up another notch.

Col certainly has the physical attributes but I've always thought it was peripheral vision, awareness and decision making that let him down. He's not a smart footballer but with Moloney gone it's probably not as big an issue, if he can get to enough ball he can cause damage.

Great pix. Just an observation...interesting that some are still struggling with high tackles even though we have been working on going low. It's going to take time to break old habits for some players, others are showing some great tackling form.

Didn't stop Morton from being shown the door, sorry traded for pick 80 something.

Watching him at training the other day he is loving having Barry there and he will be a real positive influence.

No limp, no bandaged knee, moving freely. He is looking good, I hope he can stay injury free and get a full pre season. He will be a real bonus for us if he can.

Most probably right there.

I don't agree with this, Martin, Gysberts and Morton were all on contracts and we couldn't move them on quick enough. The FD obviously think he is more value than a lot of people posting on here.

I think Taggert is a similar type player and I like the look of him more, Trengove and Grimes are others. If we get Wines we have another. Need to look at some good outside running ball getters, MacRae, Haynes, Garlett, Kennedy would be a better bet.

Exactly!

Like Essendon did when they asked for Hurley last year, and like last year Caddy won't get to where he wants to go. He is not a free agent, either a satisfactory deal gets done for GC (Wellingham will not be it), he stays or takes his chances in the PSD.

Minimum ask will be Beams.

You can guarantee GC will be looking after themselves, don't worry about that. They will be wanting Beams, Pendlebury or Thomas or no go from them. Remember last year they wanted Hurley from Essendon and the deal fell through. Caddy will go to whoever can offer GC the best deal, not who Caddy wants to go to. As for Adelaide, if they get pick 2 for Tippett my bet is they will pick up Toumpas and not Grundy, would guarantee it with Ox's 98%.

We have a big bodied kid who didn't get on the park much this year in Taggert, strong mark, good kick, think he will be a ripper and at pick 30 ish..... Just saying.

Maybe his mind is in different place at the moment. He seems to get a lot of raps, I just don't see it. Has the emperor got no clothes or can he really play?

I'm with you Ben, I've not seen a lot of Caddy but from what I have I'm not sure what all the fuss is about. Would rather keep pick 13 and use it wisely.

Not sure about Caddy, hasn't really set the game on fire and have to agree with the post about this draft and the available talent at least in the first round. We also have Rory Taggert who is already a bigger body, good pace but yet to play senior football, good skills, elite kick. Would Caddy cost us someone like Stringer? Just thinking aloud with a keyboard, dangerous habit at this time of night.