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By my reckoning we haven't won a game since he was announced as the new CEO. Looks like he's lost the players before he's even started.

I'm not at all sure he did mishandle the coaching situation at EFC...subsequent events would say they should have kept with Knights.

What are the inaccuracies?

Maybe he should approach them...interesting idea I know but I think it's his responsibility, not the other way around. That's what made Ian Dicker such an important figure at Hawthorn, he galvanised the supporters.

I don't see anything particularly wrong with the article. We can be a thin skinned mob at times. I am however p....off that ex board members seem to want to open their mouths again. To me they are total non entities after what they stood by and watch happen. There are misgivings about Pert from around the football community it seems and that's ok, as Caro says PJ didn't leave EFC with a clean skin. I'm not so sure about whether this Murphy fellow is a good or bad endorsement of anyone. That enquiry seemed a bit of a put up job and there was only ever 1 real boss at Collingwood, he escaped any real criticism. My personal feeling is that Bartlett has felt a bit left out in the rebuild and has been seen as a figurehead. There were rumblings about the relationship between him and PJ a few years back. PJ liked to run the ship and he ran it well. To turn something around like he has with our club there really needs to be only one person in charge...it can't be done by committee. Now, someone like Bartlett doesn't get to where he is in life without a substantial ego to go with it. Now was his chance, he couldn't move on PJ or whilst PJ was in the job as he had way too many credits in the bank. I've never met Bartlett but watching from a far I can't say I'm a fan. He doesn't seem to engage with the supporter group from what I've seem, maybe I'm wrong here. I just hope he doesn't let his ego get in the way and this appointment works well. Pity it was time for PJ to retire, another few years would have been good for us but I have a feeling not so good for Bartlett and his board.

The difference is you replace them with not quite as old guys who are better players now. That's why we look at Gaff, Murphy and co... You don't replace them with kids.

Posted this in another thread. I think he's worth a look at, particularly the way Garlett has been of late...

The Tiges have a few small forwards who can't get a game at the moment. I would seriously look at a trade for Shai Bolton. He's behind Rioli, Higgins etc at the mo. We need some pace and x factor in the forward half.

Doesn't look like he's in a rut though...he's ok and doing enough to hold his spot in the side. As I say, just not the superstar everyone expects yet. When did Watts have a better (or pretty good) season as a young player by the way?

Petracca is not being gifted games, he's not in a rut...his stats hold up pretty well for someone who mainly plays half forward with the one exception. He could hit the scoreboard a bit more. His biggest problem is expectation... Everyone else's. He's expected to be a superstar and he's not, he may never be but he's still contributing pretty well in my mind and will get a lot better. Nothing is to be gained by playing him at Casey as he's not Sylvia or Watts mark 2. Get over it everyone.

It was the rule of the week against the Pies 'S', seems to have calmed down a bit since. ...and why they continue to deny there is such a thing as rule of the week is beyond stupid. The evidence is there for all to see, we might be rusted on supporters but we're not that dumb.

The Brayshaw mark was the same as Wingards, should have been paid. Melk's shepherding decision was a disgrace. Yes Nichols is a ..... of an umpire. ...but we cost ourselves the game through poor delivery into the forward line. Umpires or not there was a 30+ point win there for the taking.

"There had been suggestions over the weekend from former directors and powerbrokers that Jackson would quit his post immediately, but these were proven to be unfounded at Thursday’s morning tea." I find this a most interesting line from the article... These are the people that put us in our previous poor position and cause nothing but trouble. There they go again and yet again they are wrong...ego might not be a dirty word but for some I wish they would just shut it.

...the bye round, nearly as bad as preseason. It will be good to be back playing footy again on Friday.

I wouldn't be targeting Wallis 'Moon'... I think Tyson is a much better player/prospect and he's struggling to get a game. We need a bit of run & carry/class. Looking for someone to emerge like Yeo has at WC...this is the type of player we need. Who has the skillset but hasn't put it all together yet? Someone to really work with Oliver... The dogs have a kid Webb or Williams maybe another, can't remember who but looked to have the raw talent. I'm sure we like all clubs are on the lookout, that's why Langdon's name is popping up.

Yep, I get people expressing their opinions but I think they're not looking at the bigger picture. ...you can't judge him by a game like Friday night which was a glorified game of rugby in many respects. Nor can you go on the outside player reputation he's often tagged with as this year he's shown he can get his own ball. With the changes coming into the game next year, and they will come the game will open out a lot more and it will be imperative to have runners like Gaff. It's probably our biggest weakness. An open forward line is going to be great for us with Tommy Mac, Hogan and Weid, Oliver will be unstoppable around the ball but we still need class runners bringing the ball in.

No, it's a key factor in growth but there's a lot more to it than that. Get the wins but place yourself to take advantage of them, that's the way we will grow. North are a great example of a team who weren't able to translate on-field success to support and memberships.

During PJ's time the President and board have pretty much remained in the background. This year they have had to tick off on 3 big calls...selling off poker machine money, selecting a new CEO and developing a new home base. I'm sure many share my trepidation as previous boards/presidents don't imbue me with confidence but with these decisions best of 3 won't win. All 3 must be winners.

Dill's AFL is a little bit flakey for me, I don't put a lot of store in their acumen. For all his short comings AD did have a clue...

There was rumours of a rift between Jackson & Bartlett a year or so back. I just hope Bartlett's ego is not getting the better of him here. Melbourne Presidents don't have a good record of appointments.

Funnily enough he was the first one to come to my mind...didn't mention him at the time though. Thought he was done with footy. I wonder if the Roos connection played any part? a pity the podcast was before the announcement.

I'm hoping this will be a good appointment as I'm sure we all are. For those worried about negative inside mail from Collingwood people, we got the same negative stuff about PJ from the EFC people on his announcement. If Pert is as big a disaster as PJ has been I will be a happy man.

Hey @DeeSpencer, I get your frustration and sometimes I felt the same today. I think we can only hold one of him and Vince from here on in, unfortunately along with Jetta they make us too slow against quick forwards and surging mids. As @Earl Hood says above the big problem today was the mids and I would add lack of defensive pressure from our forwards. Pedders throws out the balance and the kid gets run over too much at the mo. Probably time to get Hunt back in with Garlett, move Smith across to a flank or wing and bring in Petty...

@Macca, this one features Drew Zingg on guitar...very underrated player. Probably the best of the Steely Dan live show players. Donald Fagan did this New York Rock & Soul Revue show that started as kind of a cover band, then added a few 'Dan' songs before it morphed back into a full on Steely Dan reunion after 12 years of separation.

Tom should have blocked and called him back into the ball 'rp'...