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Saty did you go to the last training session of the season ? If so, did you happen to see what number Corey Maynard was wearing ?

Caught out...lol...i misread the trade, i'm happy to admit when i'm wrong, but you did say output is similar. I stand by what i said, their output is not even close, nor is their value, Matt Jones is worth nothing, insult away Stuie

Your trade is pretty much Jones for Lyons genius

You need to grow up Stuie, you are like a petty little school boy

You do realise Jones is 29 and Lyons 25, one struggles to get a game for a bottom eight side, the other plays every week in a top 4 side. You won't find anyone apart from yourself who thinks Jones is even close to Lyons in terms of value, it's ridiculous to even suggest so

4 games in the last 3 years, too injury prone for mine Billy, spends as much time on the sidelines as Meeson did

He would have to be a backup only, can't play forward at all. Can't see him playing in the same team as Gawn, not much difference between Clarke & Spencer except Spencer can take a mark

Not even close in terms of output Matt Jones, 10 games 1 goal, 205 disposals, 45 marks, 35 tackles Jarryd Lyons, 19 games 15 goals, 414 disposals, 66 marks, 92 tackles, Lyons is 25, Jones 29, not even close in terms of value either. Jones is worth nothing

Former Demon Shaun Smith was named coach of the year in the VFL Womens League, could be a good choice to coach our womens team

Do you know what time it starts KC ?, hopefully it will be streamed on the VFL website

I am starting to feel the same way OX. I was devastated when The Wizard left, this will be worse if it eventuates.

Does anyone know for certain that Newton is out of contract. A couple of articles that listed our out of contract players mentioned all players above except Newton. I wander if he got a 3 year contract, Port did say when he left that our contract offer was much better than their offer in both dollars and years.

Yeah, whatevever Stu

It;s a tough one 55. I would like to see Bernie back in the midfield, Salem as well. Our backup running defenders are Lumumba, Wagner, Matt Jones & White. Even if all of Lumumba, Wagner & Jones stay i think he's worth a spot. He could take a bit of extra time to develop, reminds me of Kyle Cheney. List changes are going to be hard this year, you could make a case for just about every player to be retained on the list this season, has not been like that for a while.

I was relaying some information zealot, no need to act like a child

He was in their leadership group for a couple of years before being dumped at the end of 2015. I think he was replaced by Shaun Higgins

I would definately give White another year on the rookie list 55. He played well against Gold Coast, not so well against the Saints. Possibly Wagner will be elevated and Michie & King delisted leaving 3 spots if White stays. I hope he gets another year

61 & 64, I meant first son of a past B$F winner DG

Sorry, I meant first Father & Son to win B&F

First son of a past player to win a MFC B&F, congrats Jack

2008 Clint Bartram 2009 Shane Valenti 2010 Colin Sylvia 2011 Colin Garland 2012 Max Gawn 2013 Colin Sylvia 2014 Jack Watts 2015 Neville Jetta 2016 Neville Jetta

2007 Ryan Ferguson 2008 Adem Yze 2009 Shane Valenti 2010 Brad Miller 2011 Matthew Bate 2012 Tom Couch 2013 Jesse Hogan 2014 Max Gawn 2015 Aiden Riley 2016 Jack Grimes

Currie is about 28 and played 6-7 games. I understand the concept and value of a depth ruckman, i think we can do better than Spencer, he's a big body that provides a contest and that's about it

Value at Casey, so what ? Terlich provides value at Casey. Spencer is the luckiest player in the league to have a contract for next season.