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BOMBERS PONDER OPTIONS ON TOP PICK ESSENDON has conceded it will be difficult to move up the draft order and get in ahead of an Isaac Kako bid, with the Bombers now listening to rival offers for their No.9 selection. As reported by AFL.com.au on Wednesday, Melbourne is among the teams expected to come hard for pick No.9 as Essendon ponders moving the selection back or into the future to avoid it being absorbed by an earlier bid on Kako. Speaking to AFL.com.au's Gettable on Thursday, Bombers list manager Matt Rosa revealed the club had tried to get up the order but said it is unlikely such a possibility would eventuate. "We've explored that," Rosa said. "We've spoken to some clubs ahead of us to see if there's the potential of moving up. But I think, as time goes on, we've really realised that it's going to be hard to potentially move up in this draft. Everyone is valuing those high picks. It's something that we'll keep exploring, but I would say it's unlikely at this stage." Instead, Essendon is more likely to move the pick back – subsequently amassing more points to match a bid on Kako – or into the future, to ensure it doesn't get lost completely when a bid on the small forward is placed. "We're still living in a space where we're just assessing all of our options," Rosa said. "We have had some offers and some interest in that pick No.9, whether it be for us to move back and potentially move into the future. We're in a position where we've just really got to listen to all opportunities. "Clearly, the pointy end of this draft is strong. It would need to be quite a special offer for us to consider giving up that pick No.9 at this stage. But we're listening to all options at the moment." Essendon could wait through the Trade Period and into draft night before deciding on whether it shifts pick No.9, with the club hopeful of using three or four selections at this year's draft. – Riley Beveridge

Draft math time. Dees bid on Kako @ pick 6 6 = 1751 points Bombers get a 20% discount so need 1400 points. Bombers trade 9 for GWS for 16 and 17. 16 = 1067 points Leaving them 333 points short. From here, they can trade 17 down again for further points to match. Or the pick slides back by that amount. In this case, 333 point deficit pushes pick 17 out to 28. So essentially turn 9 into Kako and pick 28 (or an earlier pick if split with another club wanting pick 17) if they deal with GWS. Of course other bids for academy players like Lombard and Marshall will affect this. Bombers will then weigh up their ideal outcome. Kako + 28 - by trading down (with GWS specifically) or Pick 6 + Kako - by using their future 1st plus extra draft picks to get ahead of a Kako bid. (Not sure they have enough here to entice a club to do this). The may even hope to trade in an earlier 1st round pick and hope Kako slides past 9 to give them say 6, 9 and Kako. Highly unlikely I would think. Or Trade out of pick 9 downwards and into the future. Example might be dees offer Future 1st plus picks 28, 47, 53 to give them points to match a Kako bid. Kako + dees f1

Only way I see Oliver leaving is if Saints, Bombers or Tigers put their hand up and convince him to come. Cats aren't going to pay that much for him.

Unlikely freo would trade 11 to us I would say then unless they really want to load up on picks for Warner.

We should be in the conversation for that pick but tigers will be hard to beat if they want it and it sounds like they do. Tigers: 24, 32, 42, 43, 45, 51, 61, 70 Melbourne: 28, 40, 49, 54, 64 Bulldogs: 35, 48 (incoming Daniel, Macrae and ?Smith picks) GWS: 21, 37, 53, 56

GWS apparently into Stringer. Wonder if they land him they'll be more inclined to release Derksen?

@Pennant St Dee Highlights of Cody Angove, believe you said we may have shown some interest in him earlier in the year?

Can't agree sorry. As horrible as we finished this year we are not a bottom 4 team. Academy picks don't make any difference to us as they were never available in the open pool anyway. Next year we have the ability to trade two years in advance to get back into the first round. Failing that, if we do have a dumpster fire year then we will easily get two first rounders for Petracca and potentially a good pick for Oliver (pending form on and off the field) if one or both want out and we want to reset down the youth pathway. Better to get as much quality kids in early and have that extra years development. I'm looking forward to seeing the possibility of two midfielders (or whatever type of player we select) to develop alongside Windsor and Tholstrup as our next wave of elite players.

Essentially we are interested in one of freos picks with our f1. May not happen if freo use two current first rounders for Bolton. We've been "blown out of the water" for suns pick 13 by other clubs.

Was hoping it was a third first round pick somehow.

2h ago 12:39 A BID for Essendon Academy product Isaac Kako is expected to be "right on the cusp" of the Bombers' pick No.9 in this year's draft, according to AFL.com.au's Cal Twomey. The Bombers have first access to small forward Kako in November's Telstra AFL Draft because he is part of the club's Next Generation Academy. Rival clubs can place a bid on Kako at any time on draft night and the Bombers would then have to give up its next pick as part of its effort to match the bid and bring the young forward to the club. Twomey believes a bid for Kako could come before the Bombers' first pick, with St Kilda, Melbourne and Richmond all interested. That would mean the Bombers would lose their pick 9 when they match the bid. Instead, Twomey says the Bombers may look to do a deal to get ahead of a bid, which would net them a player at the top end of the draft as well as Kako. "I think it's precarious for the Bombers," he said on Continental Tyres AFL Trade Radio on Tuesday. "They're at nine, he's had strong interest from St Kilda, Melbourne and Richmond, the clubs that will likely hold picks five, six, seven, eight before the Bombers enter the draft. "I've said this a few times, I stand by it, I'm all for Essendon using a pick to get up ahead of it, even if it means using a future first-round pick to get in really early in the draft. "Would you offer up nine and a future one to get up to three for West Coast? Would nine be too far back for the Eagles to push? What you do there though, next year when you're without a pick, you've got two first-rounders to buy back in and that gives you some flex. "Isaac Kako, it's going to be right on the cusp, right on that mark. If it's not before then, it's going to be just afterwards so that leaves you in a dangerous spot and the extra pick coming last week as part of the compensation for Josh Battle wasn't a great result for them." - Dejan Kalinic

Richmond are going to have a stack of picks. I wonder if there is appeal from the Tiges to get pick 2 from North for 6 and 10? Tigers take the first two kids and will still potentially have a couple of late first round picks as well. North get Armstrong and Tauru. I'm not sure I'd do that if I was Richmond though.

4d chess time. We threaten to pick kako, then offer essendon our f1 with 40 and 53 (to help them match a bid) for pick 9. Alternatively, we trade 5 and 45 for 9, 31 and f1. Trade one of our f1st for freos pick 11. End up with 9, 11, f1 (ours or bombers) and 28, 31 and 40 to try and upgrade further. Yes I'm day 1 trade period bored.

I would hope it would be pick 10 or 11 but yes, f1 for pick 18 is a risky play.

Presuming this falls over if they use picks 10 and 18 on Bolton.

Quoted the wrong person?

Colours actually don't look horrible on him which is a rare thing to say with Adelaide. All the best nibbler.

Nice post. Lalor is being talked about as a potential landing spot for Richmond's first pick. If he fell to 5 I feel he would be be a player JT would like and we would call his name out. Tough, strong contested mid with good skills and some explosive athletic traits. I hope he falls to our pick. My top selections for us would be Lalor O'Sullivan Langford Reid Draper Berry Travaglia Smith Allen Hynes Lindsay Smillie I rate Armstrong extremely highly but not sure that's where we need to be spending our top 5 pick. He could pair up very well with JvR, but not sure our FD are writing of Jefferson just yet. Unless we see Jefferson as being capable of playing in the backline at AFL level and Armstrong head and shoulders above him, I can't see us selecting a 3rd key forward in 4 years given our midfield needs. Tauru similarly is an exciting prospect. Ultra competative and can play just about anywhere. This is going to be a really interesting draft with lots of surprises I feel. Kako being linked to us at 6 is one. For all we know players like Smith, Reid, Smillie may go top 5 or they may go late first round.

2023 vs 2024 trade period

Wonder how Petracca feels about Collingwood trading away their future first rounder.

Are we still in this? Future first for GC pick 13 is more enticing than Collingwood and Carlton can offer GC. We could then offer 13 and 28 for Houston. GWS and Richmond the ones we have to beat I think for GC #13.

Is that allowed? I thought there were still rules in place for future pick trading. Unless they've changed it recently it was that if you traded a f1 then you couldn't trade any other picks in subsequent rounds. Conversely, if you traded a f2, you could trade as much as you like in later future rounds but you couldn't trade your f1 unless you replaced it with another f1.

Kako is an Essendon NGA player. Given they've been desperate for a high quality small forward I can't see them not matching a bid.

Do we have a top 10 or expanded placement list?