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Also completely glosses over the fact they traded out pick 2. With North now likely not to bid on Daicos, they could have used it to choose another player before a Daicos bid which in turn would have required even less points to match. I get that's more of a 2021 onfield performance issue and they would have been expecting to finish much higher, but any other club would be crucified for that deal coming back to bite them. "Geniuses" lol.
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Great players, not a single defender though.
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I have a gut feeling that later on in his career he will swing forward and become a weapon, similar to Yze. Absolute gun.
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Bontempelli went ok for a half. Could rotate off the bench as an impact player.
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Sounds like GWS really weren't happy with Essendons conduct last year. Hope they make them pay through the nose or just hold Hill to his contract. Will Josh Mahoney play a role in Essendons trading?
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2021 AFL National Draft prospects: The next batch
Nascent replied to TRIGON's topic in Melbourne Demons
While important to recognise biases such as these, I would argue that (pushing NGA factors to the side) Mac Andrew would have complimented our list profile brilliantly. Premiers just above highlighted the the current state of play re ruckman on a list. With Mac Andrew being as highly touted as he is, having him develop underneath Gawn and Jackson could have provided him a fantastic platform to transition into the team in 3-4 years time as Gawns career winds down. Jackson takes on the primary ruck role, Mac Andrew steps into the forward/ruck position and we again have the dominate ruck-ruck/forward combo for the next 10-15 years. -
Something that seems to be going under the radar, in the media at least, is the incredible situation Collingwood finds itself in where they traded away this years 1st rounder. From afl.com re North Melbourne firming on Horne-Francis for their first pick. "...rivals now believing they are more unlikely to place a bid on Collingwood father-son Nick Daicos." So in affect, Collingwood could have had Finn Callaghan (or other) and Daicos but their poor year means they will now miss out on an extra top 3 pick. Then there is the trading away of multiple picks just to get points to match for the one player. Glad our club is far better run.
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If we're only taking 1 or 2 picks into the draft then I would presume that we would move on pick 37, 49 and 57 into something better for this year or into next. 49 and 57 may come in by half a dozen spots or more and could be valuable for clubs still wanting points.
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2021 AFL National Draft prospects: The next batch
Nascent replied to TRIGON's topic in Melbourne Demons
If we go for a mid I hope Josh Ward slides to us. Was super impressive in the games he played earlier in the season that I saw. Zac Taylor is one that has good raps on him for his kicking and I believe he has good pace. Half back could see Wilmot or maybe Sinn? Outside mids could have a look at Chesser or Wanganeen-Milera. Or my preference would be to have a developing key position player. Jye Amiss, Jacob van Rooyen and Jack Williams are all WA talls that performed well throughout the year. I'll have to do a bit more research into them but think we could do with a developing tall after Brown and McDonald closing in on 30 and a yet unproven Weideman. Seems an open sort of draft after the first handful of picks which makes things interesting and hard to predict. -
We're pretty spoiled on this site. @Chook in Perth @goodwindees @Yokozuna Have all shared fantastic reliable Intel over the years.
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All good, they change things on the fly these days.
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With Chandler possibly leaving, do we do the salary dump deal with Gold Coast and pick up Macpherson as small forward back up and pick 19?
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Not unless he's bid on after pick 20. They changed the rules at the end of last year so a team that selects him prior to 20 will get him and we won't be able to match. Father/sons are different and old rules still apply.
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2021 NATIONAL DRAFT ORDER AND SELECTIONS 2021
Nascent replied to Whispering_Jack's topic in Melbourne Demons
Maybe we have our eyes on a young key forward like Jye Amiss, Jacob van Rooyen or Jack Williams? -
We need midfield depth and he is a cheap plug and play option. Up to him if wants to battle it out on the fringes. There's a genuine shot for him to be part of a premiership team. That's gotta be enticing.
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They'll get better offers I would think.
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Subject to further trades, a bid on Daicos at pick 1 would mean pies would have to use picks 22, 36, 41, 43 and 46 to match. The flow on affects for our picks would look like 33 -> 32 45 -> 41 57 -> 52 This would further be improved by the Bulldogs matching of a predicted early bid for Darcy. The doggies pick 17 will no doubt be traded out for multiple later picks.
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So...what do we need to achieve during this trade & draft period?
Nascent replied to Go Dees!!'s topic in Melbourne Demons
Small/medium lockdown defender (Maynard?) Project ruck and key forward Midfield depth (Dunstan?) -
First Cerra and now targeting Dunstan. Certainly looks like the club would like to add another midfielder. Our depth has taken a little hit with Jones and VDB gone. They didn't play much but we had a blessed run with injury and would be lucky to get year like that again.
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Was desperately hoping we would be making a play for King. Salary cap only goes so far I guess. Presuming AVB wouldn't net as much at all in a trade. 4th rounder or later I'd imagine.
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Just my opinion but I reckon we'll see a change in tact this year. We've hit the draft pretty hard in the last few years and taken advantage of our dip down the ladder. This has also involved trading our future first rounders as we all know. As we consolidated ourselves as the premier team in the competition, the incentive for other clubs to trade picks for our futures becomes less. There are of course teams like Bulldogs and Pies that need points, but Bulldogs are unlikely going to want to give us a helping draft hand as they are our direct competition for the coming flags and Pies seem to have an arrangement with Gold Coast in place for multiple pick swaps. With having a young team (7 players < 50 games experience and <22yr in the gf) our focus could move from drafting high end draft talent, which becomes more difficult to acquire from our draft position, to trading in established talent to supplement our list. Already we have failed in our bid for Cerra due to not having the draft capital, or so the rumours say. Perhaps the club will be content with our elite young talent and healthy list profile of our midfield brigade to challenge next year. We can then supplement our draft hand next year by perhaps trading currency from this draft into next years. This will hopefully hold us in good stead to target specific player needs both at the draft and trade table. We also have two prospects in Woewodin and AMW tied to the club as f/s and nga respectively. They will hopefully come cheaply as neither are rated as first or second round picks as far as I'm aware from the released draft articles to date. Upgrade Jordon from rookie to senior list and perhaps draft a project tall ruck or key position player and that might do us for the year.
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Not quite a crumb but I instantly thought of this.
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Wouldn't be upset with Cerra but sounds like he's Carlton bound. Would much prefer to put our chips in for King next year.
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Looks a great prospect and can see the wraps on him. Do find it curious though that he is rated as top 10 universally in the draft and didn't even make the top 10 in Dandenongs B&F. Missed a lot of games due to state duties?