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Legend, thank you.

Do you know what's the difference between the victory pack and the regular premiership DVD? There's a significant price difference but I've checked a couple websites and there's no details about what extra content they have.

Meanwhile those of us that haven't received anything.

Outstanding work. These highlights would not look out of place as a special feature on our premiership DVD.

Sonsie, Chesser and Taylor as well. One will be available if we go down that route.

Zac Taylor highlights posted today. Like most other draftees, the vision is fairly limited. Seems he is comfortable off both feet but predominately a right foot kick, must have got my wires crossed there. A good write up on him here. https://afl.draftcentral.com.au/player/zac-taylor/

Paywall. Could you, or someone else who has access, mind listing the players mentioned? I've read somewhere that Adelaide is keen on Rachele. Some things are starting to take shape. The introduction of live pick swapping makes draft predictions an absolute nightmare.

Zac Taylor, this years cannons b&f winner, was one I was hoping would sneak through to our second pick. Seems to be rising up the draft boards and wouldn't even be surprised if he went first round. I think he would compliment our midfield nicely being described as one of the best kicks in the draft (left footer) with excellent pace. While only 180cm, he has a strong contested side highlighted by his last game of the season where he picked up 37 disposals, 22 of which were contested. Would sit well on the other wing to langdon when his body is up for the rigours of afl. Wouldn't be upset if we used 17 on him. Nice article on him below. Haven't found any highlights yet but will post when I find some. https://www.afl.com.au/news/686220/why-cannons-b-f-winner-with-high-footy-iq-is-taylor-made-for-afl

Would be a hint of irony if Mac Andrew ended up at GWS. The introduction of NGAs to the clubs outside of the Northern academies, among other reasons, was largely seen as a way to even up the unfair advantage GWS and Sydney had over cherry picking the best talent in their area. A flawed idea in itself. Now we have the winding back of clubs priority NGA rights due to the development pathways being Covid affected. GWS, Sydney, Gold Coast and Brisbane still have unfettered access to their academy players I believe. GWS, who had priority rights to access players such as Tom Greene, Harry Perryman, Harry Himmelberg and Jacob Hopper, is now widely speculated to take a Melbourne zoned NGA player without the dees ability to match. Funny how things work out.

Well it wouldn't be out of place for demonland to get some recognition from the club in some form, would be well deserved for what you guys have given us as a community 👍

I really like the look of Sinn and Sonsie, would have liked to have seen more of Chesser. Do you know much about Zac Taylor? He's one I'm keeping an eye on and reckon he could compliment our midfield by being that outside winger with speed and reportedly excellent kicking skills. Seems to be in the mid to late second round calculations at the moment. I'm hoping he is one that might fall to our second pick.

Nice, looks fantastic. The blue hat really compliments your red face as well I also ordered this jumper through the mfc website a couple days after the granny but the website said it's expected release is the 13th of December? Seems you have friends in high places! Or a bit quicker on the mouse clicks than I was.

I believe it's just his rankings of the players and not a mock draft as such. However I could actually see the appeal in Wilmot. He's a small defender and we've just lost depth there in Jetta and Lockhart. Hibberd probably has one more year in him as well while Tomlinson is more key position size. We do have Salem, Rivers, Hunt and Bowey playing off the half back currently but it wouldn't surprise me to see Rivers and Bowey move up the ground as their career progresses. Pressure from players below in the ressies cannot be understated as well. His description as being aggressive/combative as well as attacking flair gives me impressions of a Brayden Maynard type. I have no idea on his skill level and game iq due to the covid scratched season but if he is ticking those boxes then he'd be a good option in my view. Personally, I feel we need to have a young developing key forward on the list to plan for the transition of McDonald and Brown in the event that Weideman doesn't kick on. Amiss looks to be out of range, perhaps Van Rooyen could be the man?

Cal Twomey has posted his October phantom form guide for October and has expanded it to a top 35. https://www.afl.com.au/news/685788/cal-twomeys-phantom-form-guide-top-draft-prospects-october-ranking

While I pretty much agree with your comments on Mac Andrew, it seems a fait accompli for him to be drafted in the top 15 and out of our reach. While he has some outstanding physical traits and decent skills for a big man, there must be a massive amount of projection of his potential for clubs to be willing to part with a first rounder for him. From what I've seen of him, his game sense/running patterns aren't at a high level. Certainly not as coveted as Luke Jackson was which was highlighted by our recruiters in the draft video of the to hell and back documentary series. Let's also not forget that Luke Jackson was widely seen as a mid teens pick by the draft "experts." These same experts are now stating Mac is a top 10 pick on less than half the exposed game time and inferior stats to Luke in every category. Macs potential impact in front of goal I believe is also overstated having only kicked to 2 goals in 6 NAB league games. He also finished 13th in the stingrays best and fairest. To my eyes, Mac Andrew is impressive when the ball is put on his head and he can out stretch his opponents. When around the ball in the ruck he is also impressive at out leaping his counterpart and also following up with repeated efforts at ground level where he also has great skills for a man of his size. Perhaps the impact on the game that Luke has had has put a premium on talented mobile big men with these traits and is what is pushing him up the board. It will take Mac alot longer to get their in my view, if it all.

Possibly the best kick on our list already. I think in due course we will see him on a wing and delivering the ball inside 50 post his 'apprenticeship' in the backline.

Collingwoods pick 27 now gone to the tigers for pick 38, 40 and a future 3rd. Collingwoods move prevents our pick 37 from coming in earlier but aids our picks 49 and 57 to come in an extra selection. Tigers now have 7, 15, 26, 27 and 28. A mini-rebuild of sorts?

Quite possibly right. I've mainly put him there as the club I believe have said they would ideally like another developing ruck on the list and Conway is, allegedly, the best one in the draft. He is largely predicted to go from the second round onwards. We then had half a dozen rucks taken in the midseason draft this year which may take other clubs out of the market for a Ruck. Unless you're an exceptional talent like Jackson, Naitinui or Grundy, rucks tend to slide into the back half of the draft. Tigers most likely the risk with 3 consecutive picks at 26, 27 and 28 and most likely in the market for a ruck as well.

We lose extra spots from 1. Austin Bradtke. He was a category B rookie and was allowed as an addition to the total of 42. 2. Recruitment and now retention of Turner midseason due to a players on our long term injury list. He essentially was an extra player for us during the year. Declase was as well but has since been delisted. Essentially we had 42 + a cat B rookie and 2 x midseason draftees making a total of 45 for the year. We have to shed 3 players to get back to 42, although we can add a cat B rookie again if we like (think we can have two even) What DeeSpencer said

A thread to discuss our second live pick at the 2021 AFL draft. With father/son and NGA selections, as well as the ability of trading picks from now right through to and including draft night, this number is surely going to change before we call out our second player. While our list is in healthy shape in both age demographic and positional depth, we may look to target a developing Ruck for both insurance for next year and an eye to a post Gawn era. Toby Conway is one we might look at he is still on the board with Cal Twomey ranking him at #26 in his latest form guide and labels him the best ruck prospect in the draft. Toby Conway Ruckman
 204cm/90kg 
24/4/03
 Geelong Falcons/Vic Country The best young ruck in the draft who can start things for his midfielders at centre bounces and is also handy around the ground as a drop-back player or move-forward target. Conway, a cousin of Sydney's Tom McCartin and his brother and former Saints forward Paddy, performed well for the Geelong Falcons and Vic Country this season before the season was cut short. If its another midfielder we're after to suppliment the list following the departures of Jones and AVB, Corey Warner from WA might fit the bill. Not ranked in Cal Twomeys top 30, he sneaks into that very same position on draft centrals latest draft rankings. #30 Corey Warner East Fremantle/Western Australia - Balanced Midfielder 07/10/2003 - 182cm - 74kg Snapshot: Warner is a hard-running midfielder who can play both inside and out, breaking forward with intent and a penetrating left foot kick. There is another 'C.Warner' running around, this time of the Corey variety after brother Chad was drafted to Sydney in 2019. The younger sibling skippered Aquinas College this year and managed four League games for East Fremantle, plying his trade out on the wing. He traded that outside role for one at the centre bounces when playing against his peers, averaging 24 disposals in nine Colts games and matching that average across his three finals appearances. While somewhat dependent on his left side, Warner gets good penetration on the end of bursting runs forward, carrying away from the midfield with purpose. He also made a State Under 19s appearance in 2021 and has risen steeply into second round contention. Links to Cal Twomeys top 30 form guide and Draft Centrals October rankings below Cal Twomey's Phantom Form Guide: Top draft prospects' September ranking Draft Central Power Rankings: October 2021

Fair enough, to be honest he's probably not what we need anyway. I'm genuinely curious to see how this first round plays out and who we end up with.

More impressive to my eyes. Seems stronger and harder at the ball as well as having greater agility and has the strength to stand up in a tackle and get an effective disposal away. At 192cm he could be a beast. Maybe @Pennant St Dee will have some insights into him and how he is rated over in WA?

If a quality key position player is available I would think we would have to look long and hard at them. Amiss and Van Rooyen in particular. Otherwise there seems to be a plethora of mids/half backs that will be around the mark. One that caught my attention was Matthew Johnson from WA. Tall midfielder with great decision making and skills. Also loves the contested stuff which we know the dees value highly. Might go before our pick though.

I presume there won't be a ban on trades until the last hour like years gone by? Not that anything exciting is going to happen anyway.