Undeeterred

Absolutely hates Melbourne. He'd say anything.

Maybe he hates being there....

I wonder whether things change, and he thought he could get home easily and it would all be good. Now it hasn't worked like that, perhaps he realises what a mess it will be playing with us. Still, imagine playing with GC next year. Yuk. Hogan isn't exactly a culture builder.

Tend to agree, equally we're putting May in the position where he can't publicly state his intentions in the same way as Hogan isn't, so we're kind of giving him cover to wait it out without being under pressure to go public, and also saving face if it all falls through.

After all that bluster, posting how strong a position we are in on every single page of the thread, and having the gall to call me jelly-kneed when I proposed pragmatism early on. Lol at you, my friend.

Well yes, hence the reference to going in the draft. At which Freo will have one of the first picks.

I find the 'player owes club' argument hard on the basis that clubs draft players acting in the club's interests. It's isn't as if they're doing someone a favour - they are doing it because they think it will make their football team better. On that basis, I don't think players owe clubs anything just because the club was clever enough and ahead of the curve enough to find a player who was otherwise in relative obscurity.

At least you are consistent, but you are wildly overstating our power here. Regardless of the posts above from Wrecker, by saying nothing about staying, Jesse is clearly implying he wants to go. If we can't do a deal, and he refuses to sign long term, we have a massive distraction contract-wise next year right when we don't need one, along with a player who clearly won't want to be there next year, and who already exhibits poor body language when things go his way. This is exactly why Gold Coast want to get rid of May. It isn't worth the hassle. Even if Wrecker is right, a player who is torn is going to have a really hard time properly committing, if Freo refuse to give us a fair deal. He really has to go now, and we really have to take what we can get, all posturing aside.

Do you seriously think he hasn't??

Fairly drastic solution, but ok!

Whoever is driving this speculation, the die is cast in my view. He has to go - there's no way he can sign up to us with any credibility given how long he and the club have let this go on. He's definitely going.

Depends. Are you Jason Taylor?

Surely you have something better to do!!

Can't be that important.

Given we've had the same discussion pretty every year, I wouldn't get too excited about whichever journalist it was and their credibility. I could have written that article.

Points mean nothing to us. If Port want to get up to 4, they will trade 9 and 10. Simple as that. They don't care about how many points are in the balance.

So shut it down then!

Bit rough to dump the poor barstad for a prelim, then make him show up and do this. WTF has he done to them??

Quite - they don't grow on trees obviously. I think Bugg and Garlett and Kent were so far gone by now that they didn't really have a choice. And the formula has been a winning one...

Just out of interest, who would you have had instead of them?

'Blip of a failure'. Can't you read? Just wondering. Enjoy spending the entire summer wallowing in one game, rather than getting some perspecitve.

Yes. And unbalanced. It's entirely boring when someone has an agenda, and is on the lookout for anything to push that agenda. Jones was rubbish yesterday. But he's not on his own there.

If he didn't cherry pick all the time it would be fine. Where's he been for a month ? Anyone can pick out and post unbalanced nonsense.

Sorry, you are right on this bit. On our last performance, we are a top-4 side stacked with 20-24 year old up and coming superstars, missing two of its most important structural players, who hit a physical and emotional brick wall after a run of huge games, bringing us to the finals for the first time in 12 years, and who were overawed by a big game but who will learn and grow and naturally overcome yesterday's blip of a failure. Sounds quite good to me.

He's not speaking on your behalf. He's telling someone else, who said you were on the right track, that you're not. Which is pretty usual fare for you.