Undeeterred

I said Lever shouldn't be expected to play as a 1 on 1 key defender, in response to others saying he should be able to because he's paid a lot. My point is that being paid a lot is completely irrelevant if it isn't what you're being paid to do.

Stupidest thing I've ever heard. Gawn is on heaps, why don't you get him to do it?

Why? It's not his job.

We've finally got rid of all the others. Except Oscy. We'll always have Oscy.

Not sure about that...

Do you? if you do, and you’re ‘dishing up’ criticism, unless you’re also on the coaching staff I hope he’s not listening.

Yeah because he’s really reading and taking in the rubbish you post on Demonland

Clearly talking about injuries, and not being able to get a core playing group together on a continuous basis to develop that cohesion further.

Doubt it given we gave up heaps to get out of next year’s first round and into this year’s

Carlton involved in the pick trade. We’ve clearly said to Freo at least we will give you access to one extra gun, provided you don’t take X, and Carlton made to understand the same

This. There’s no way we are taking Jackson at 3, and this whole interview was disingenuous. I can’t recall, but when we picked Oliver out of the sky I bet Taylor wasn’t on Trade Radio saying ‘yeah, got this big fat Shep kid in mind, you’ll all laugh when we pick him but he’ll probably win a Brownlow’. He’s just throwing up names that sound plausible. Sure, we might take one, but he’s hardly going on a Podcast and giving away our drafting strategy...

You’re usually pretty unflappable and balanced, but I can see you getting carried away here. West Coast has us well and truly covered. Collingwood and Richmond too I’d argue.

When will people remember that most of the reason Howe left was because we were playing him back, when he wanted to play forward? He was never going to be happy with us. And the way that people blather about how Buckley ‘discovered’ Howe as a defender is ludicrous. and finally, if you remembered correctly, you’d remember that Howe took a lot of speccies in defence for us and not a lot else - he was nowhere near the player Collingwood have turned him into.

Port have to go to Whyalla and Moreton Bay. We can’t complain!

The diabetes or something else?

He will be fine - Superman couldn’t have kept oppo key forwards quiet this year

Looks great in a humming side when it all clicks, looks a disaster when it’s not going well. But he deserves his spot and another crack next year.

Holy moly!! Really?

They knew he was a natural forward, where he played most of 2018. He was moved back at the end of 2018, when we needed a sweeper type in defence. They left him in that role for most of 2019, which was odd, but they knew damn well he was a forward after they drafted him as one...

If McDonald and Melksham get back on the park next year we will be fine up forward. We probably forget how damaging Melksham in particular can be. I think we did extremely well - got the outside players we needed who push a couple of fringe players out. It also takes Brayshaw, Jones, Salem, Hunt and god knows who else off the wings We can use 3 or really push GWS - I reckon they will pony up before the draft with something decent

Here's an idea. How about recruiting a bloody forward instead.

There's some amazing nonsense on this thread. Let's assume bringing him in doesn't kill our salary cap space (which, given he's almost a direct swap for Lewis and Garlett, it couldn't possibly). Is he better than any of ANB, either of the Wagners, JKH, Lockhart, Dunkley or some of the other fringe players regularly getting games with us? Of course he is. It's an utter no-brainer. If he's a walk up start at GWS, he sure as he is a walk up start for us.

Are you actually joking? Or is this a serious suggestion that if you had to choose, you'd take Frost?

What possible right do you, or any of the other 'livid' people on this thread, have to dictate to players about their holidays? For god's sake, they chase around a piece of leather for your entertainment. You don't own them. Their holidays, and what they do on them, are none of your bloody business.

Sure, but to what end?