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VRC Kennedy Oaks – What you need to know (JustHorseRacing) On the surface it looks like the winner should come from the first 4 in the betting but the Oaks can throw up upset wins and with the placings as well. Maybe the 5, 8, 9 or the 10 can get into the finish to provide a bit of value.

The TAB takes about 20% no matter what the dividend is on trifecta's and the like. Fixed odds is different but tote odds has an automatic % attached. 80/20 is the usual ratio although some of the forms of betting are 85/15 or 82/18. So the only way the betting agencies can lose is with large bets at fixed odds. And then they can always lay off. e.g ... if a TAB trifecta pool is $1Million then the TAB takes $200k straight off the top. The dividend is then worked out with the remaining $800k (depending on how many successful combinations)

Yeah and I'm hoping the protest is dismissed but I'm not holding my breath. There's not much Dettori could do though because if a horse hangs in late it is very difficult for the jockey to adjust in time. Edit: Ugh ... $333 down to zero You win some you lose some and I recall being on the other side of the ledger in the Caulfield Stakes last year. (Benbatl should have been relegated to 2nd) Il Paradiso was probably robbed of victory in all reality. Those on it might feel aggrieved as it was storming through before the interference.

Well leg 1 salutes ... waiting around 3 hours for the next 2 legs! The inside going seems to be the go too.

Multi it up Wadda We just need to find another certainty. Can't find anything at HQ's Here's a couple from elsewhere that I looked at Morph R9 No.4 Grabbing Glory Kensington R8 No.1 Jazzland Treble paying 11-1

I've got Finche winning and then ... Master of Reality Vow And Declare Mer de Glace Constantinople Il Paradiso

And just like that the Hayes camp win the first race (the 2yo Ottawa St) with a 10-1 shot (Aryaaf)

RSN Melbourne Cup Preview Podcast And here are some good quality HD replays of some Cups from the 90's

@Dee Zephyr @Wadda We Sing @binman @JV7 @Gorgoroth @ProperDee @Wrecker45 @Clintosaurus @Biffen @Go the Biff Racing channel at 7.30pm tonight has the 'Get On' crew previewing the Cup

Ha ha! Spoken like a true punter! I reckon it's more the Hayes camp for those "Stablemate's" saluting. Gets a lot of 10-1 shots winning too. They set certain horses for certain races and they are very good at it. Pity we're often none the wiser beforehand. As for Waller ... he's got the cream of the good horses and lots of them. Stands to reason he'll win a lot (especially the Group races) Feel free to chime in with your best bet on the weekend too Wrecker. We've got about 7 or 8 participants and it's a bit of fun. We went 8: 4 - 1 - 0 last weekend.

There have only been 2 road wins this week and you've nailed both Gorg. A trap round for road favourites that is for sure. Smart move leaving out the Pats & Packers as you only now need Dallas to get up to get the 2 points one-out. But it's Dallas! Good luck!

I have narrowed it down to 8 - 10 winning chances Wrecker and there are possibly another 5 or 6 that could get into the finish. Might be 10-1 the field in terms of which horses are the punters favourites. It is said every year but this year's race is the most wide open I can ever remember. And we don't know a great deal about many of the horses. I'm going to use the Cailfield Cup as a guide but with zero confidence. In the end boxing 6 in the exotics is probably the go. And then you have to get lucky. Finche & Constantinople probably go in but who knows? Il Paradiso is being talked about. Mer de Glace? Vow And Declare?

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I couldn't find anything that jumped out at me but I usually cherry-pick the Purton & Moreira mounts and go down the exotics path. And that's what I've done today It should be noted that Purton's strike rate is down a bit this season whilst Moreira is riding really well. And both jockeys are more often than not on the best horses in nearly every race that they are engaged in. Race 7 (G3 Feature) is a good betting race though (trifecta or F4?) and I'd expect one of Exultant (Purton), Dark Dream (Moreira) or Furore (Teetan) to greet the judge.

Well you are the 'Caulfield Correspondent' so that would be expected Wadda! And there are only 2 Australian bred horses in the Cup field (Vow And Declare & Youngstar) but Vow And Declare has got a real shot at Cup glory if we're using the Caulfield Cup as a guide. Here's Stephen Brassel's runner-by-runner guide to the Melbourne Cup

2 x wins and 2 x 2nds out of the 5. Got a nice collect on Iridessa but the 12k multi didn't salute! In front though and the racing was terrific. Next stop overseas in the next couple of months is up in Japan (1 × big G1 every Sunday until late Dec) & Hong Kong (Sun Nov 17th & Sun Dec 8th with 3 or 4 group races on each day) But some of us here have a dabble at the WA summer carnival at Ascot through late Nov and all of Dec (although the first port of call is nearly always Willie Pike with those big races over there)

Yep, a good track might have seen a few of the more fancied runners get into the finish or even win. I was keen on Flit, Zoutori & Shadow Hero but all 3 just couldn't make up the ground from the back. Bivouac is another who struggles a bit when the going is a Soft7 or worse. Where as Exceedence likes it wet. They still ran good times in the sprint races though so the better horses won on the day. No real excuses as we knew the conditions early on. Warning & Kolding are the 2 standouts for me. Melody Belle as well as Exceedence were both excellent and the connections of Pierata picked up an extra $750k along with the $580k first prize for winning the Redzel Stakes. That $750k was up for any Everest runner that ran in the Redzel Stakes and won. Nice work if you can get it!

Jets (that's gotta be a first) Pats, Dallas

I left 'Warning' out but kept looking at the horse thinking that it was going to ruin my strategy. Same for 'Mizzy' in the Golden Eagle. Ah what could have been but you can't include everything that you might fancy. Warning ran tremendously well too and was a more than worthy winner of the Derby. Nice quaddie dividend at Flemington all things considered Wadda. Kolding is some kind of horse too. Both are geldings so they'll race on. Warning looks a cup horse whilst Kolding is a true miler but might get the mile and a quarter. Runs quick too! Would have been close to the track record I'd say. Arcadia Queen was the disappointment as was Brutal. I ended up just below break even but went close to winning quite a bit. That's the beauty of horse racing though ... the chance to win big is always there.

Best Bet Strike Rate This Week 8: 4 - 1 - 0 (and 2 of 3 that missed were almost sure things - go figure!) Last Week 6: 3 - 0 - 0 Well done to Gorg, GtB, DZ & Wadda for getting their tips over the line. As for the rest of us ... better luck next time! Australian Group Races

Unable to copy & paste a screenshot of the Melbourne Cup field but here are a couple of handy links anyway. I'll try again later but someone else might have better luck re copying up a screenshot. Melbourne Cup Field, Form & Odds (Racenet) Melbourne Cup Odds & Evaluation (JustHorseRacing)

And if all 5 of my picks salute the drinks are on me! Reckon 2 or 3 might get up but I'm hoping they will all get into the finish (obviously) I started getting into overseas racing mainly because I don't like betting on non Group racing. I prefer to have the class on my side so during our winter months and for days like the Breeders Cup and other such big days (Royal Ascot, British Champions Day and the l'Arc Meetings etc) I'm all over it. It's not for everyone but it is great racing all the same. The best of the best offers great value too (if you can find the winners) Here's the 'Santa Anita' Breeders Cup Card courtesy of RacingPost.com

And I'm having a go at the big 'Breeders Cup' meeting overnight (Santa Anita) and then will look for the value Moreira & Purton runners at Sha Tin tomorrow. But overnight at Santa Anita there is a fabulous array of G1 races (9 in all) and it really is the creme de la creme of the American & European horses going for glory. Helps if you follow the overseas Group racing JV but because I do take a keen interest I find evaluating the form to be a not too difficult exercise. The familiar names jump out at you. Small win bets with a few doubles on the shorties is the go. For those that are interested the form guide, odds & tips are all readily available at www.racingpost.com. And all the local betting agencies allow for at least win, place & multi betting on the meeting. For what its worth here are a few of my picks R7 No.1 Iridessa R8 No.4 Mitole R9 No.6 Got Stormy R10 No.4 Midnight Bisou R11 No.10 Old Persian And I'll post up the Melbourne Cup field soon enough. Looks to be anyone's race this year though. I'm just going to box 6 in trifecta and hope for the best!

This week's strike rate (which includes Wadda's mid week Bendigo Cup pick (Top of the Range) & 'GtB's 'Exceedence' tip. 8: 4 - 1 - 0

Yeah that's a decent appraisal Dappa My 12 isn't a practical one as I didn't have a NFC East team in and only 5 AFC teams in the 12. But for what its worth I've got the Cowboys & Eagles in that 10-12 area. And a lot can change in a month or even in a week or 2. We could revisit the power index at the end of November just to compare lists. Others can obviously have a go too