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Hope you're right but I don't rate Weideman, T-Mac is overrated, VDB is constantly injured as is Smith, Hannan is an average footballer and KK has done nothing. May can play but has had injury concerns as well and needs to do a proper pre-season. I'd revamp the list as I believe our list is overrated anyway. Couldn't care less what Champion data says. My own eyes tells me we're not much chop. 5 & 17 is almost self-explanatory. As previously stated, 2018 is now not a template for me at all. Aberration year, we got found out and we need a change in personnel both with the playing list and in the coaching area (apart from Goodwin) The sport moves along at a rapid rate and we're now playing catch-up The latter (coaching area) is already happening whilst the former (list adjustments) is about to happen. Areas of our football such as pace, decision making and disposal skills are not AFL standard. Despite all that we can still win 9-11 games next season but we'll need to get a whole lot better in a number of areas. Which is quite possible. It's called critical analysis. The measurement I much prefer. But rather than single out any one individual, I'd rather look at everything all at once. You don't have to agree. In fact, it's much easier to just agree to disagree. It's not like any of our opinions matter anyway. The club will do what it sees fit. We are mere onlookers.

Packers have shown me enough to say that we can contend. Eagles too The NFC is up for grabs Meanwhile over in the AFC the Pats can stay there. Stay away from our conference!

There should be another name for that ... I see a 'Pick' as a throw to an opposition player But luck plays a part in sport. Eagles were the better team on the night though. It's a game of inches and we've had our fair share of luck over the years If the Packers had a decent running game we'd have probably won ... more so at Lambeau though. At Philadelphia it's tougher. Oh and congrats on 300 pages for the thread.

He's got another 4 goes at it from close range. Can the Eagles double-up? If so, you deserve to win

Your secondary might be banged up but the Eagles have still done a great job back there. Against other teams we'd have racked up the score by now. That was a nasty hit ... hope the bloke is alright. Friendly fire this time

Gotta get the TD first ... not easy against this Eagles defence & secondary Big play coming up ... 3rd and 8 on the Eagles 41 yard line. With 01:59 left.

The coach probably thought that Rodgers could find 1 receiver with 4 goes at it As you said, great D by the Eagles. If you score on this drive I reckon you've got the win.

It was a nasty blow ... they really do play this sport for keeps. Worth the risk going for it then as the Packers need TD's to win the game. The Eagles keep scoring so you've got to match them in advance. Now looking for some Rodgers magic.

Whoever has the ball last scores and therefore wins Dappa? Eagles have been the slightly better team based on smashing the Packers re running the ball On the other hand the Packers passing game has been immense. Rodgers is being Rodgers. Or should I say 'Godgers'!

We have never had a list good enough to be a true contender ... but we've periodically been quite good or very good. Unless one is lucky enough to have seen the Smith years. And greatness is directly linked to talent. Real talent. Jordie McKenzie and hundreds of others probably all had great attitude but could they "Play"? The answer is no. Not to A grade or B+ levels anyway. And Jordie did his absolute best then some. Kudos to the bloke I say. Where as GWS have got an abundance of talent ... add in great Admin & great coaching and they should be able to win big We on the other hand are miles off.

I'm not clinging on to much out of the 2018 season (apart from the 2 enjoyable finals wins) We've got to start afresh. We need a much better game plan with better coaching and we're way short on the talent required to be a true contender. And we need to fast-track that improvement. Free agency needs to be embraced and we need to trade for ready-to-go talent. We can still go to the draft of course but it doesn't have to necessarily be the first port of call.

Hell of a game at Lambeau!

See my post above for my explanation By the way, a starting 22 player can be C+ only. In fact, we were playing up to 8 C grade quality players (or worse) for the greater part of this season. In more simplistic terms you replace 6 very average players with 6 others that are better players. Ranging from A grade down to B- (or C+) Adding an A grader is probably the big ask but we live in hope. If you're thinking I'm meaning adding 6 A grade players you are jumping to the wrong conclusion. If we recruit as we've so often done in the past then I wouldn't be expecting a great return. But Goodwin is now coaching for his own survival so I expect him to swing the changes (with the help of the recruiting team) We'll find out soon enough.

Well not really with regards to free agency now being a huge factor. It's possible to add 3 - 4 free agents if you've got salary cap space. And we look like we're pursuing at least 3 free agents. We should have embraced free agency from 2012 onwards by the way but the antiquated thinking held us back. And there was a 2 or 3 year warning that free agency was coming too so no excuses. So it's not a mammoth task at all unless you're thinking like a dinosaur (not you obviously) Pardon the pun. And then there's the draft and trading for talent. At least 2-4 good players can be added along with the free agents from our trading position. Adding 6 starting 22 players is quite feasible especially when you consider that we've only got 8 - 10 good players. Half our list is either not good enough or not ready. Anyway, we'll find out soon enough but I'm reckoning that we will be very aggressive in the off-season. And I expect the club to be quite creative with the pick 3 that we have at our disposal.

Fair enough We're not far away from each other anyway re the predicted finish. But we'll probably get some injuries again to some of our better players and our depth of good players (right now) isn't strong enough to cover for those injuries My mind could be changed though if we can add 6 starting 22 players including 2 or 3 of those 6 to be added to the best 12. It's a decent ask but we're in quite a reasonable trading position. As always, the off-season recruiting is all important. X amount of good players = X amount of wins.

I'll take 9-11 wins as we're now back to a point where we've got quite a bit to do in order for the club being able to build a top list (as least in the foreseeable future) Not sure the list is being coached well either. But of course the Coaching dept. can improve much like the list can improve. My ambition for the club far outstrips the club's ambition. It's one thing wanting to be great but it's another thing having a great plan to become great. We've got too many issues to address all at once. I suppose we're a knockout hope but the substance isn't substantial. 9 -11 wins at least brings back a bit of respectability and we can then (hopefully) build from there. 5 & 17 is close enough to basket-case so we've got it all ahead of us RL. We're playing catch-up.

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I don't reckon it matters Wadda ... the racing at Rosehill on Saturday is fabulous. Always has been We can jusr roll it over a couple of days. Even the Valley on Friday evening if you like.

Best Bet Saturday Rosehill Race 7 No.2 Bivouac (Win) $3.00

And a few more highlights packages ...

Week 4 games ... Just the 1 point on offer this week but every odd numbered week from here on in is worth 2 points. With 3 points on offer for week 17. Leaderboard in the Tipping Comp 4 - Dee Zephyr, Go the Biff 3 - JV7, Dappa Dan, Macca 2 - DeeSpencer 1 - Layzie, Clintosaurus, Gorgoroth

Here are a few highlights packages from week 3 ... you might have to go to youtube to view

No good! Pay dirt! Nice 3 figure collect with the Celestial Falls & Adelaide Ace double. Having 2 horses running for you in a double is handy though Looks a likely type does Adelaide Ace.

Thanks for that DZ I follow a couple of tipsters as you know but Paul Joice isn't too bad getting the odd roughie up His special today as well as his value tip at Canterbury is very good odds. Race 3 No. 12 Weston $18 (Win) $4 (Place)

Racing at Flemington tomorrow ... the Oaks Trial & Derby Trial being the feature events (races 6 & 7) Celestial Falls has strong support in the Oaks Trial whilst Serious Liaison is favoured in the Derby Trial ahead of Adelaide Ace.