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Ok so we've got Miami Bound, Master of Wine, Fierce Impact, Kings Will Dream and I'll throw in Russian Camelot & Warning (for a bit of value. 4, 7, 9, 10, 13 & 16 Betting has closed! Good luck today to all the punters out there and lets hope the ADATR choices come through with the goods!

I now view footy as a 'new' sport ... defence based. With no real connection to the past. It's the only way I can watch it (with that mindset) I certainly don't love footy any more and I'm not recommending that others view the sport as I now view it. I just got sick & tired of going through the 7 stages of grief year after year And I can enjoy defence based sports to a certain degree.

And the Cats would be feeling mighty deflated right now too. They'll still get at least 2 finals unless they slip up against Sydney next week but they'd want to play a lot better than they did tonight (if they're going to feature)

Might be a generational thing ... most tiger fans I know went through 3 decades of mostly rubbish results. Most witnessed the glory years from '67 - '80 then later on saw their club nearly fold. The feedback I get is still with a tinge of disbelief re how well their team is going now. They didn't think they'd ever see success again. Same as you'd imagine that not many of us would take anything for granted if we ever became successful again. I know I wouldn't.

I know plenty of tiger fans and not 1 of them is complaining. They are still pinching themselves re their ongoing success. It's their team defence that really stands out though. No other club comes close. The Eagles an outside chance but only on their home deck (and that won't be happening) As previously stated, they bring their best and they win the big one again. Their onfield footy IQ is something else as well. And I reckon they are too professional to have an off day.

Tigers will win it all again if they play at their best. Their total football (inc total defence) is hard to counter. In fact, the teams on the end of their brand of footy seem nonplussed during the battle. Clueless on how to respond. To keep an in-form team like Geelong down to 1 goal in 3 quarters was remarkable.

Had 'em both in mind JV, don't worry! And putting together an exotic combo is not necessarily for my benefit. Anyone can use the picks. I'm a great believer in team and with regards to the punt, I'm not sure the team aspect has been explored properly. Just my view of course. For instance, I'm liking the extra best bets that we currently have this Spring. The large multi is an option especially for a small outlay but I also like to pluck the eyes out of the picks for straight wins, double's or even a treble. Got 4 collects last week out of the 6 picks and turned a profit. And all our choices this week look like standouts to me.

Fair bit of value already with Master of Wine & Miami Bound. And to be honest I'd rather trust the collective knowledge of the ADATR crew than my own thoughts. Boxing 6 with a small outlay can still pay a decent dividend especially with a F4. I first struck upon the idea when you made mention of a collect in the Caulfield Cup (?) a couple of years ago. Think it was a Box 6 F4 IIRC.

...And 'Rolling Fog' Interested in posters thoughts with regards to the Makybe Diva Group1 I've got Master of Wine as my best bet (place only) but I'm thinking of taking out a box Tri or Box F4. As much as it's often best to leave the best bet races alone I don't want to curtail any conversations on a big Group 1. I do fancy Master of Wine but the exotics could pay a bit on the race. So feel free to proffer up your choice The event is Race 7 and the field, form & odds in a post above (near the top of the page)

How good is Caleb Ewan! 2 stage wins now and he certainly knows where the finishing line is. Times his run's to perfection. He could win another stage or 2 as well just yet However, we now venture into the Hills, Mountains & Alps for the next 7 stages. Various category 1 climbs await as the tour hots up. Richie Porte is 11th overall but is only 1'53" behind the leader (Primoz Roglic) Top 5 might be his aim but the next few days might sort a few things out for the GC riders. After the rest day on Monday we have 3 consecutive days in the Alps with some grueling climbs involved.

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As Wadda has mentioned, let's try and keep our best bets to different races. Newcomers are always welcome but always remember that your best bet is for others to indulge in! We don't keep individual tallies, it's all about the team! Personally, I always give my choice a lot of thought. The horse has to jump out at me (Metaphorically speaking of course) Best Bet (Saturday) Flemington Race 7 No.9 Master of Wine (Place) $3.50

Apart from the G1 Makybe Diva Stakes there are a total of 6 x G2 races as well as 4 x Listed races to be run on Saturday. The carnival is starting to warm up with many of the good horses engaged. Good luck punters! Full Program Rosehill (Saturday) Fields, Form & Odds - Feature Events - Races 5, 6, 7 & 8 Full Program Flemington (Saturday) Fields, Form & Odds - Feature Events - Races 2, 3, 4, 6, 7, 8 & 9

Yeah I saw that Gorg Haven't really got anything else as a standout although I am having a few bets. However, I generally follow James McDonald on a Wednesday up in Sydney. He will often get 2 or 3 winners but is on a lot of the better horses. So look for the value is my tip. Or if you get hold of Gator's tips for Sandown (using those tips for the exotics?)

Games listed above ... post #7853 Chargers, Colts, Steelers

And the overseas Group 1's ... got a couple of winners out of this lot. Top notch racing

Replays from Saturday - Australia (overseas Group 1 replays in the following post)

Midweek Special (Wednesday) Sandown Race 9 No.5 Approach Discreet (Win) $6.50 ... D Oliver on board

We should do a 'One to Watch' segment every now and again ... early in the week would suit but sometimes one needs to say something as it happens (as Biff did yesterday) 'Showmanship' is my one to watch going forward. Beat home one of our picks but thems the breaks. Looks a real goodin' And if Nature Strip is regarded as one of the best what about Gytrash? Most impressive. Nearly broke the track record (00.55.81 over the 1000m) in winning on Saturday so it wasn't so much about Nature Strip failing first up. Bella Vella & Creedence keep winning too. Creedence is a good honest horse whilst Bella Vella is a much improved sprinter. Must be something in the water over in South Australia!

Cruised past like a good horse alright ... and at this time of year the connections could somehow fast track the horse into some stake races or compete at Benchmark level for it's next few. 'Dee Zephyr' might have more of an idea of the pathway the horse can take from here on in. It's a 4yo so the guineas races are out.

Did it with ease. Apparently it was meant to be called Barocca but someone misspelt the name on application. But Barocca never worked anyway ... another great con job of the 20th century. Hair of the dog or a greasy hamburger did the trick. Will watch Barocha with interest though. Big call Biff but you never know.

Been having a bit of luck lately (up until about 2 weeks ago!) with the 4pic multi. Combination NBA & Baseball but not the Ice Hockey (that's too hard) Half time/Full time with the hoops & the baseball wins at the line (-1.5) Usually get about 14-1 up to about 25-1. The hoops are more difficult to predict but a number of the baseball teams can be somewhat relied upon. Namely the Dodgers, Cubs, Atlanta, Oakland, Twins, White Sox & Rays ... at home with a pitching advantage. In the Hoops I've noticed that teams will play well at home if their last match was a loss on the road ... the bounce-back.

I should have passed on my Sha Tin tips ... 2 winners and a double already. But you know what, I pass them on and they then lose. That's how it works. Think I'll stick to the one Saturday tip and maybe one other on another day.

No no no Wadda! ? This is a thread for the thoroughbreds The last thing we need are people complaining about missing out on their sporting multi's by one leg. Now and again is ok as there is always some natural crossover but we don't want to turn the thread into a pure gambling thread. The Monkey Business thread exists for a reason.

There's always one! I've gone away from the exotics a bit for that reason RF. Same principle applies to the bigger multi's. 2 legs does me these days with the occasional 3 or 4 leg multi. Big odds at 200-1 was I'll Be Gone ... just got pipped too. You often wonder how a horse can be that much of a long shot. It's form wasn't all that bad (all things considered)