Demon Dynasty

There's no DH filter rjay? Could really use one here in Melbourne right about now

Shoenberg looks very handy following on from his promising work in the u18s

2018 final was better but gee i'm enjoying this match. So many arrogant Hawk fans getting to eat some more humble pie

Can't blame him being a tad cautious MNL. He should be able to push through that the more games he plays. Strangely enough a few bumps and bruises (even accidental) might be the tonic he needs to get there.

My bad D11 .... that was overall NOT inside 50! The furthest i can drill down on that stat is... Forward Half Pressure Acts (2020 averages).... Bennell 7.0 Spargo 9.4 They're pretty close in a number of their general stats to be honest.

Not that it matters but i'm on board Mr Leg. If he's fit and ready i'd be bringing him straight in for Kozzy (managed) this week. A touch of flare and poise around the drop inside 50 and just outside the arc would be very nice this week ty.

My lips are sealed OD. He is kicking goals at 100% accuracy at the moment so who am i to judge. But yes, it would be nice if he (and others around him) were kicking a few more of late.

Found them...see edit above D11 ?

I don't have access to pressure acts inside 50 D11 (Bin....anyone?) but.... Tackles inside 50 (2020 season averages) Bennell 0.4 Spargo 0.4 Edit* ... Just found them! ... Pressure Acts inside 50 Bennell 8.8 Spargo 11.4

I stand corrected on RIvers. I'm not convinced with Harmes at HB if he has to for Rivers on a wing. Mind you i think Rivers could do quite well in this posi also as you say. For now i'd stick with Harmes on the other wing for AVB. Hibbo!? Fingers crossed. That really throws a spanner in the works for me. You are lucky to be up there 58 and witnessing live sport. Groundhog day down here at the moment. Enjoy!

On a slightly more serious note 58.... Imho keep the changes to a minimum with a bit of management to lock this match in and let's get a bit more secure in the eight. Yes to Lockhart but not for the run imo. Stay at home on Papley. He is that dangerous he deserves a dedicated lock and i think Jay is the best of the bunch here. Sure, he won't keep him completely quiet but we don't want Papley doing to us what Tracc did to the Saints. Just need to lessen the damage somewhat. Keep Rivers playing as is for the intercept, bit of run and top notch disposal skills coming off HB. Let him do what he's doing well and keep building his confidence. Too early days to play a hard lock on a hardened nut like Papley imv. Kozzy managed for Harley or ANB sounds about right. Actually i would bring both in as Hannan deserves a spell after that ordinary performance. Harmes for a managed Vanders. Harmes coming in to the non-Mr Ed wing allows Tomlinson to push back into the O-Mac role, allowing Lever to remain as the 3rd man intercept role assisting May etc. So for mine it's... In: Lockhart, Harley, ANB, Harmes Out: O-Mac (omitted), Kozzy (managed), Hannan (omitted), Vanders (managed).

Apparently these bubbles 58...allowing full contact but NIL injury. Ok maybe the odd concussion or two

Possibly at some point Bobby. I could be wrong, but 2021 more likely if he is still on the list at that stage (i'm not sure where his contract is at). I reckon he would've needed a run at it before now, especially with the injury issue pre-season but who knows!

Ripping bloke. Owning that wing and sure beats some of the stop gap measures trialled through here in 2019. Challenge now is to find a complimentary cracker jack on the other wing. All power to Mr Ed

If you looked at the baseline stats as an outsider without knowing the result, i reckon 9 out of 10 would've said Saints must have won that Ox. So it's a real strange result that some might refer to as an outlier. If you played it 10 times over the Saints probably win most of them. We got smashed in the middle. Steele had a VG game here. Hill provided great run also. They won the meters gain count by nearly 500 and as you've mentioned the inside 50 count big time and still lost. Maxy a bit flat after the lay-off. So what happened? It's all been well covered in the other threads but a miserly defence (May / Lever), solid rebound off HB and wing (Ed was super), a match turner from Tracc, amazing last quarter from Clarry and solid work from Viney at stoppages. Weid was ok but the rest of that forward line was super flakey and is still a real worry. But yes they might have suffered from a lack of supply on the night.

Rnd 14, 2020 Metricon - Dogs vs Cats So after that pretty solid turnaround against quality opposition coming from a long way back at quarter time and their recent great form, i just thought i'd take a look how the Cats went this round. They bat deep at the top with nearly seven players hitting a score of 3+ and their bottom six score is off the charts at 9.775 The only time our bottom six have gone near that was against the lowly Hawks (9.300) and the Roos (8.500). That team score is big also. We've bettered that on two occasions, again against the Hawks (56.475) and the Roos (56.750) with our next best (statistical) performance against the Pies (50.800). Our round three performance against the Cats was our lowest for the year at 37.050 Maybe that's a good thing though given we only lost by three points? Three players alone had a massive 28 score involvements between them.... Danger with 10 and Stanley / Hawkins with 8 a piece. Player Score Rank Patrick Dangerfield 4.325 1 Thomas Stewart 4.050 2 Cameron Guthrie 3.550 3 Tom Hawkins # 3.225 4 Jed Bews 3.050 5 Luke Dahlhaus 3.050 5 Rhys Stanley # 3.050 7 Tom Atkins 2.950 8 Brandan Parfitt 2.700 9 Mark O'Connor 2.650 10 Lachlan Henderson 2.625 11 Gary Rohan 2.625 12 Mark Blicavs # 2.575 13 Mitchell Duncan 2.200 14 Jack Henry 2.100 15 Jack Steven 1.950 16 Zach Tuohy 1.800 17 Gryan Miers 1.775 18 Jake Kolodjashnij 1.675 19 Sam Menegola 1.525 20 Bradley Close 1.500 21 Harry Taylor 1.500 21 Team Score 56.450 Top 6 21.250 Bottom 6 9.775 # Hit outs to advantage not captured Stats courtesy of footywire.com

There is no need to bring in a defender for the sake of bringing in a defender for O-Mac imo PF. Tomlinson can just as easily cover for O-Mac down back, allowing Lever to keep playing as the assist / 3rd man intercept that he does so well. What we need to get right is the outside run & carry / contested marking on the non-Ed wing as well as the forward / HF side clicking. Tomlinson does provide the marking part when he's there so need to try & cover this off. Possibly Big Maxy, which is not uncommon anyway, but also the obvious for me here is Harmes. Not so shabby overhead and does well as an effective intercept / counter sling shot player running off his man. He's our 6th best intercept player just ahead of Maxy & Salem. But also well ahead of the competition such as Tomlinson, Jones, AVB, Harley, Hannan, Fritta & AVB. Outside of Tomlinson & Salem (who could share this role nicely with Harmes), he's also ahead of his main competitors for this transitional wing/ HF spot for meters gained in Jones, AVB & Harley this season. One area he isn't doing so well in though, pressure, sitting a fair way behind AVB. On another physical pressure measure though, tackles, he isn't far behind Jones & AVB. All up Harmes (sharing the role with Salem + assists in the air from Maxy) would be my selection to replace AVB this week. This allows Tomlinson to move back taking over O-Mac's role (omitted). Solve this other wing and we go a long way towards getting our forward 50 entries up. Then it's just a matter (again) of getting the connection / mix / form right up forward. This also means we can go through either wing from the kick outs and we become dangerous for the opp on either side. Switching to this wing also then becomes a more dangerous option, forcing our opponent to pay a little more respect to that side (ie., more options for us and not as predictable, placing a little more doubt / pressure on the opp to cover the non-Ed side). If we do these two things it improves our overall balance and in theory this should take our scoring and winning % to another level.

That has been the case for many years now H20. It's a dog's breakfast and fully compromised fixture that will always favour/benefit the AFL's favs. Any team sitting outside their bubble (eg., us) will need to have one helluva team and year to win an 'outlier' premiership, a la the Doggies in 2016.

He is still in the best mix (just) but at times we might need a different role player to suit the opposition match ups on the day. He is competing for that last outside player between the arcs / pushing forward with AVB & ANB imv and to a lessor degree Harley. Have to leave these calls up to the FD but....FCS can we at least keep him out of the back half so any turnovers aren't necessarily as damaging / costly and we give the defence a chance to amend / clean up the damage? Would love to see him get to 300, but probably needs to be this year unless he can somehow lighten up a little through the legs over this pre-season to handle the new role and truly believes he has a full season in him and willing to play a fair bit in the McGoos if required for the team's / club's sake.

He's a real footballer's footballer this kid but also has the spring and toe to be something extra. He's averaging 74% efficiency, just above AFL average, and our 5th best intercept player this season behind some significant seniors up top. Looking forward to watching this young fella's career develop.

Any team other than maybe Norf & GC the commentators would have been saying "clear goal". Even the goal line official in the box said "i think he touched it but there's no clear vision, stay with the umpires call" even though to me there was no clear evidence to suggest how he came to that conclusion. The ball gained momentum and was just across the line imv even IF he did manage to get a nail on it at some stage. Everyone's been kicking us for decades not just KC. Some habits are hard to break and people are like sheep & keep falling in to line with the mainstream kicking.

Exactly and by doing so they often clear out space behind them inside 50, 30 plus to 50, for their KFs to lead into. Our smalls def need to learn this and should be instructed / coached post match to do so using some of Melk's work last night and other club's small forward examples to show them the way. It's not always about crumbing the spill inside 30 for a quick snap or assist. Having said that there was one lovely intercept from Kozzy early on last night just outside the arc on the square. More of that hard two way work please just outside the arc. He also needs to work on his timing /positioning aspect. Sometimes you need to hit the contest with speed other times go slow and wait front n square off the contest a little, not so much under their nasal hair. If i was part of the FD i'd be employing the services of Cyril &/or Milne to coach Kozzy & Spargs on the finer points of playing a small forward role. One of the hardest positions on the ground imv and expert coaching would help immensely. Plenty of upside and key to our 'regular' finals / top 4 fortunes going forward.

Agreed but if we are keeping him in he needs to play higher up the ground, looking for intercepts coming out of our 50 (his form of pressure if you like....he wont bring the ground stuff) and using his beautiful left low raking kicks to either hit up the odd lead, chaos ball it off the hands of the pack 20 odd meters out giving our smalls a chance (if one or two of them ever get their crumbing act together) or even mediums like traccc and / or hitting the square on occasions as a last choice bail out like we saw against the Crows at one point from about 50 out on the boundary, which handed the Weid a goal on the line (think it was the Crows anyway).

Your forward line assessment is pretty good in general Macca other than that last para which is still mostly on the money imv. Most of the match (and prior matches, particularly Weid, they play from behind too often when there's a run & carry play coming off HB or the middle under heat. Main forwards need to recognise this earlier and lead up to the carrier more often. We are getting lead to those situations far too often by the opp defenders who often outmark us. And no i'm not referring to their spare. Separately from that type of outcome which is part of the norm. On the highlighted para i think Weid & Brown started to do that in about the last 8 to 10 minutes or so.

Weighted Averages up to and including Rnd 14, 2020 Player 2020 Weighted Score 2020 Rank 2019 Weighted Score % Change vs 2019 % Change vs 2019 w/ 20% time adjusted 2019 Rank Change in Rank vs 2019 Clayton Oliver 4.200 1 4.880 -13.93 7.58 1 0 Christian Petracca 3.785 2 2.843 33.13 66.42 9 7 Max Gawn # 3.100 3 3.437 -9.81 12.74 4 1 Jack Viney 3.002 4 3.258 -7.86 15.18 5 1 Christian Salem 2.925 5 3.658 -20.04 -0.05 3 -2 Steven May 2.831 6 2.618 8.14 35.17 14 8 Ed Langdon 2.783 7 - - - - - Angus Brayshaw 2.596 8 3.131 -17.09 3.64 6 -2 Michael Hibberd 2.338 9 2.339 -0.04 24.95 19 10 Jake Lever 2.277 10 2.519 -9.61 12.99 16 6 James Harmes 2.208 11 4.039 -45.33 -31.67 2 -9 Tom Sparrow 2.150 12 1.275 68.63 110.78 37 25 Adam Tomlinson # 1.933 13 - - - - - Braydon Preuss # 1.875 14 1.643 14.12 42.65 33 19 Harley Bennell 1.850 15 - - - - - Nathan Jones 1.807 16 2.907 -37.84 -22.30 7 -9 Alex N-Bullen 1.783 17 2.120 -15.90 5.13 22 5 Oscar McDonald 1.733 18 1.956 -11.40 10.75 26 8 Tom McDonald # 1.675 19 2.297 -27.08 -8.85 20 1 Jay Lockhart 1.650 20 1.819 -9.29 13.39 30 10 Bayley Fritsch 1.640 21 2.809 -41.62 -27.02 10 -11 Trent Rivers 1.605 22 - - - - - Sam Weideman 1.600 23 1.895 -15.57 5.54 27 4 Mitchell Hannan 1.506 24 1.433 5.09 31.37 36 12 Luke Jackson # 1.463 25 - - - - - Aaron Vandenburg 1.394 26 - - - - - Charlie Spargo 1.360 27 1.513 -10.11 12.36 35 8 Neville Jetta 1.355 28 2.264 -40.15 -25.19 18 -10 Jake Melksham 1.319 29 2.181 -39.52 -24.40 21 -8 Joel Smith 1.292 30 - - - - - Toby Bedford * 1.250 31 - - - - - Kysaiah Pickett 1.220 32 - - - - - Mitchell Brown 0.913 33 - - - - - Jayden Hunt 0.908 34 2.092 -56.60 -45.75 23 -11 Average Team Score - Top 22 51.746 59.623 -13.21 8.49 # Hit outs to advantage not captured * One match only, not an average Stats courtesy of footywire.com