Demon Dynasty

There are also holes in our D anytime one or more of May, Lever or Max are out. The Demon stonewall and mid dominance (until lately) can't (and won't) be the mainstay of our wins forever. At some stage the forward line has to step up....consistently.

That's a worry for both players. May's averages are off 22% so far this season vs 2022. Hopefully nothing too serious here on the health/fitness front.

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He won't play

He'll play

I havent paid enough attention to Bowey to give an objective view here Bubs but the turnover & clanger stats suggest he's rated very low on both counts. Turnover averages to Rnd 5 indicate he is only bettered by one other (so far part-time) defender here in Petty...who has the lowest turnover ave in the team. Out of 25 players that have played at least two matches or more Bowey's ranked 8th lowest @ 2.4 per match

Err....ummm.... not sure whether i should agree with you on this one or not! 😄

Developing quite rapidly W, particularly from 2nd half of last season onwards from what im seeing. His game at the hanger on Sunday, more so his second half, was outstanding for mine and along with Harmes i felt he was the difference on the day. Laurie & Dunstan also impacted. Im assuming you saw this one anyway but just my view. Would say he's not that far away (as in another pre-season or so to build up the extra strength/running) but could also push up to the AFL now for short stints off the bench in the odd game here & there as long as he wasn't being asked to play every game for half a season or so. Similarities to McInerney IMHO.

Agreed... hanging out to watch him live. Game's obviously changed a fair bit from back then DOF. Alot less space to lead into. So much defensive running going on now. Jakovich was pretty quick over the first 10 - 20 meters also if my memory serves me well. May take a season or two to build a tank but there's certainly something there. Time will tell where that something goes eh.

A 9 day break though Macca...plenty of time for the boys to recoup... even Reg

Oh well all i recall was we were kicking to the Punt Rd end with 5 minutes left and only a few points in it. Pretty sure i woke up at that point or the dream changed haha. If someone was sending a message it's a pretty cruel message.

Welcome back Bubs! 3 years of self exile..... im not sure this lame duck thread was the best place to make a grand (return) entrance however Surely the NoT$no B$, Parking at the G, Suburban Map and Penfolds Wines (among others) would have been more fitting!!

No haha... throw some darts?

So far in season 2023 - Ranked equal 4th lowest turnover player (out of 29) based on match averages (excludes Laurie who has not played a full match yet)... Player TO Rank Max Gawn * 6.00 1 C Petracca 5.80 2 J Jordan > * 5.73 3 C Oliver 5.60 4 Steven May 4.67 5 L Hunter 4.40 6 Jack Viney 4.25 7 Jake Lever 3.75 8 E Langdon 3.60 9 Judd McVee 3.60 9 T Sparrow 3.40 11 A Tomlinson 3.33 12 A Brayshaw 3.00 13 Ben Brown # 3.00 13 M Hibberd < * 2.91 15 Trent Rivers 2.80 16 J Melksham > 2.71 17 J Van Rooyen # 2.67 18 A N-Bullen 2.60 19 B Grundy # 2.60 19 Jake Bowey 2.40 21 B Fritsch 2.25 22 J Harmes 2.00 23 K Chandler 2.00 23 K Pickett 2.00 23 C Spargo < 1.83 26 T McDonald # 1.75 27 H Petty # 1.40 28 B Laurie < * 0.00 29 Note: An asterisk indicates less than two matches in total - not an average for comparative purposes > Subbed in at least once or more < Subbed out at least once or more

Neither was i LH... that's why those come backs are too little too late (in most cases). You have to arrest the carnage asap and start turning the tide as early as possible. An attempt at a come back from say 15 to 20 minutes to go into the last is not addressing the elephant in the room. Patchwork and honourable losses don't cut it for mine and playing in that manner, even every third game or so, is more than likely masking over ugly issues that lie deep at the heart.

LH if you go back over past results for many decades, any team that ends up down 3 goals or more, even very early in a match (1st quarter), the odds say you are most likely going to lose the vast majority of those matches. 5 goals in the first and the odds become alot worse. 7 goals at any stage of most matches, but especially post the first quarter, is pretty much game over. That's not to say amazing come backs don't happen. See our final round vs the Cats in 2021. But the chances are super slim. I would suspect most AFL coaches and crew worth their salt would be well aware of this with alarm bells ringing once an oppo gets up 3 goals or more early on. Some minor adjustments happening as a result. 7 goals down they would (in most cases) be throwing options B & C out the door and hitting the "throw caution to the wind" (all out attack) option to give the boys any chance of coming back (in most cases). Possibly something similar happened late in the Brissy match.

And he just made it even bigger

I doubt the likes of Balls would be allowed to play anymore Red! We do lack a genuine mongrel heavy hitter though. May is probably about as close as we've got. He might not have seen the incident but wow... i'd be straight at Draper if i had seen it and at him throughout the game thereafter ...on or off the ball.

Disgraceful act that one...accidental coathanger on Draper next time around would be unfortunate Only intent was to cause injury. We lack a hit man that won't take this [censored]. More players need to fly the flag in situations like this IMV. Game may have turned right there had we done so. P.s. bring back Lewis!

I understand Mr Old ... but his form wasn't up to his usual standard imv prior to missing the last few. Possibly due to the reason/s he missed in the first place? He was certainly in our top two at Casey (even no.1) so probably correct re coming back in. My view is i'd like to see the FD prod his competitive spirit a tad more and also see him in tip top shape / form with some real fire in the belly before coming back

100% Dazzle. The Toiges may not have a very full list and bit of an ageing one but they'll always be at the contest giving it eveything and they still have the experience to get a job done on a good day. We also arent the same team unless all of Max, May & Lever are in. Any one (or more) of those missing and we look gettable. The Cats were considered over the hill by many as well and while still a VG team, they probably wouldn't actually get the silver for a while. I was pretty much in that camp after 2021 although i still had an open mind that in any sport, anything's possible and to never / ever underestimate an opponent. Do so at your peril. A mere 5% off or so at this level (in a team sense) you are a chance to lose to most teams imv unless they're also having an off day.

Yes good point. I had a vivid dream about 5/6 years ago that we played off against this mob in a GF. Game up for grabs with 5 minutes to go. Wondering if it will happen (in my lifetime haha). Something i thought was beyond the realm of 'possible' 5 years back (or thereabouts). I laughed it off at the time as complete fantasy and every year since.

Same coach has out smarted us in most games OD. They way he signed after the siren was almost like... "pretty straight forward fellas, nice work". Obviously there's much more to it in the lead up and on game day than that...but you get my drift.

Something to be said about deck chairs however, for a smattering of players their form in the this first five rounds is a fair way off their season 2022 form. That can be turned around in a week or two however. Or... a few changes made might assist. The worry for mine are the differences between our best and worst, especially the two starts against Brisvegas & Essendrug. Goodwin needs to take charge here in a group sense. i can understand one match from five. But to come out seemingly not switched on for the start of 2 out of 5 at season's start!?? There's a potential for a not-so-good pattern to form here and we can't afford 3 in 6 or even 3 in 8 at this level. Time for Goody to do a bit of soul searching before we get deeper into the mire. The old footy trueism "it's 80% above the shoulders" was never more applicable right now for the mighty Demons and its head coach (with input from support crew). A bit of tough love & home truths might need to be handed out to some or all.