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I've always been nervous against Port that he could get a hold of us, fortunately it hasn't happened. Though he hasn't been in top form recently a change of Club could reinvigorate him and give us 2 years of class and experience. Definite yes from me!

Have to agree Norm, showed genuine improvement this year and had me looking forward to another potential click up in trajectory. How can anyone say he's reached his peak? He improved, logically he can improve further. He made some genuinely strong and exciting plays. The only reason you would move him on is, as has been suggested he refuses to or just cannot adhere to the roll given? I dunno, I thought your game plan can and should evolve from the talent you have at your disposal. He has talent, harness it and create a team that isn't from some rigid idea!

It's almost got to the point where, if their name ends in Pickett, Rioli or Jetta and they are available at your pick............you just take them!

Yes and I'll be very interested to see how many games they get out of him next year!

Just what we need. But, the lengthy injury interruptions and with this brief current stint making it the perfect timing for him and Collingwood to help him secure a longer contract elsewhere, add the fact it's our bogey recruit from team. I am on high alert!

And then the violent swing to "we've got this"

Thank Jesus h christ

I haven't looked up his stats and correct me if I'm wrong but from what I've seen of Ollie he is an excellent mark of the footy? I've been thinking this is an area we need to improve and Ollie would be strong in the contest on the ground and in the air. I'd dare say he'd become the top contested mark in our midfield group Max aside. I think he would benefit our side due to this and would happily see him added to our list.

That's partly what I was meaning, they've done very nicely out of trading with us, but mainly how lousy trading with them has been for us.

My reaction to trading in any Collingwood player is uh- oh

Happy to leave this one with the FD. I have vivid memories of his tenacious dangerous effect, defenders chitting themselves. As already noted came back from that personal leave and has struggled since, that injury this year has clouded where he's at even further. His age shouldn't be a problem due to his build, his head space is where it's at.

Congratulations on a remarkable Career Jordan! I was very pleased to have you aboard when you joined, it was a no-brainer for us really. And now, I'm hoping that you are offered a coaching roll, and that you would be keen to continue with us. Otherwise, best of luck in Football playing retirement.

Watching the Ric WC game, I'm disappointed that it looks like N Riewoldt has chosen a media career. His analysis of the game is insiteful and superior to any former player commentator I've listened to. I'd be ecstatic to have him on our coaching panel. His understanding of the difference in game plans and his ability to communicate it is extremely impressive.

No point getting upset we are just hopeless unfortunately

That's it for me, will watch us but will not support this absolute fiasco of a sport, turned off the channel and the AFL.

Tsitsipas, around 20 year old Greek tennis player who beat Federer this week and lost to Nadal in the Semi.

C'mon A in E, the Eagles won the flag in 2006 finished third in 2007 and then raced to second bottom to secure 1 Nic Nat in 2008. They tanked that year mate.

That's a relief, I wasn't feeling comfortable about him leaving but was understanding of his reason.

My view.......the Club rate him highly JM has said so, picks 5&6, and I agree. I don't know what this damage to his brand is but he is a young man, he will mature and, fulfill his massive potential if he stays. Dustin Martin I'm sure everyone would agree did his best to trash himself, pretty sure he was open to being traded a couple of times, might have toured some facilities, was clearly gone, stays and next minute he's the best player in the comp. So sorry to those trying to beat his price down, I ain't buying it. We are showing him we value him as highly as anyone who has played the game. I suspect JM's "blunder" allows Freo to throw mediocre pics at us and show Jesse with the picks they offer that they don't rate him anywhere nearly as highly as we do. Jesse stays and gets another year older and maturer. To me he has continued to improve and would've kicked 60 goals this year without injury+finals. He is consistently in peak condition ready for pre season, that says a lot!! He is trending upward and will continue to improve as our young team does, we have multiple potential superstars and he is one. So when these undervaluing posts hit this thread just remember that chopsticks bloke, we haven't seen anywhere near the finished JH product yet, and we should be backing him in to show us how good he can be and then he can head back to Perth, successful, rich and still only early 30s.

That's the best highlight reel I've ever seen.

Meaning there's no t in Alan

It's possible he doesn't as yet know what Freo are offering. They'll be wanting to sell him the idea, get him to Perth, viewing the new facilities etc, coffees in Freo on a spring sunny day, sell sell sell and then offering an amount too good to refuse rather than just an offer via his agent. The thing is, I believe he is open to a trade, but I suspect for him to leave, the offer will have to be a very good one. I don't believe he wants to go home that badly he'll accept similar money to what he's on now and if Freo offer him 1mil or more per year then his value to Freo is set and they will need to trade accordingly.

You're a credit to yourself and your family CP. Keep that effort going in your future endeavours, and you won't likely go too far wrong. Congratulations.

The possibilities of Gaff, Preuss, May, Shiels, 1st rd picks and Jessy staying is so complex and interesting that this conversation is both stimulating and redundant.

Hopefully we'll manage it as well as the Cats and Hawks have.