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Pleased he had been invited to train with our group. The fact that he was not father son listed by either club. Nor selected by any other club in the draft. In fact did not rate any mention I could see. Raises concerns about his ability,but at least this way we can make our own determination. So no regrets. Maybe he is young or too lite for the moment but might develop at a later age. We should have a relationship at least. The Wiz was far too good not to try !

Does JT see a future at Melbourne for Kobe Farmer ??

Question who decides the deficiencies in the playing list, that then determines the selections in the draft, and how early are these deficiencies identified and how early are the targets, targeted. Thanks

Yes I would like an "in depth" report on why certain players were or were not taken or whatever. Knowing nothing, but expecting perhaps that Carroll might be chosen, if available. But he is in melbourne so will help to keep Jackson and Rivers less homesick perhaps. But I trust the team that decides the picks, They did wonderfully well last year, again I picked others, but Jackson, Pickett and Rivers seem destined for many games. So Bowey, Laurie were talked about as possibilities and Rosman as a rough diamond destined elsewhere. Reading MFC , JT was targeting certain types or abilities and he is happy, So I should relax. I might have thought we might get someone to get into the side Round 1, but looks like we will be using the same main playing list. It also seems that "they" are comfortable having TMac playing somewhere, relax, get over 2020, look to 2021 Go Dees

What a great set of photos!! training the house down and setting the world on fire !

Plan B during the game would be good. even better if we did not need to have it implemented go choco. Welcome. Go Dees

That training was mentioned on the ABC radio yesterday, I think, but said they were training at the Pies facilities. Good to see them so fit and enjoying the work, Go Dees

I can see why you all think the way you do. I really think the pass mark will be determined half way through. If we are less than 6 wins 5 losses, even if the losses are by less than a goal each time. Then its a fail and a bad fail, see you later alligator, don't slam the door on your way out ! probably needs to be 7/4. That's when you decide and act. Don't think I like him much but I do hope its 7/4 or better. Go Dees

Thank you Thankyou Thankyou

Thanks but "noble" ?? I will read up on all these guys

It is a given that the posters who do the phantom drafts, and the others not on Demonland, who do the same, HAVE a better knowledge than me of the players coming through. Love reading this stuff but the research, and the points thing up and down, this draft and the next, its beyond me. TBO. Could someone average out the different Phantom drafts, remove the players 1-16 say, we have 18 and 19, and perhaps get to say 25, and then we or I could look at say a list of 10 players, of whom we might take 2. Has someone got the time, patience, and perseverance, let alone computer skills, Even better if someone who has "inside knowledge" might suggest a target like Jackson, when he was mentioned only a week or so before the draft last year, before that I cannot remember him being spoken of. If you do you have my grateful thanks, and I can think of interesting things for a day or so. Go Dees even paid my membership the other day on the back of BigBB coming on board. Was not going to, I thought I would wait, but I have.

Well we are lucky as Demon supporters even if the state government imposes a limit of 25% we can still sit in comfort with about the normal amount of crowd well apart from the pies and tigers hope to see some footy in 21 !!

if this is true, then hope he wins the "bluey" I think he gets involved in score opportunities more often than those that think he is NBG do. He gets to where the ball gets ! And usually gives it to a better position or scores, Go Dees

Half will agree with his demons listing half will not, both views have their own relevance. But He will straighten us up, Weid and Jacko get the poorer defender. That must be good for those two. Probably taking TMacs spot, means TMac must work harder to be best 22, that cannot be bad. If TMac gets fitter BB must work harder, definitely win win situation. I laughed at his long run up, but he is very effective with it, If he kicks 3 or 4 goals a match, hip hip hoo ray !! If he does well, the Demons in 21 will do well, I for one hope he blitzes the game, Coleman Medalist in Red n Blue. Usual stuff, full of hope in the pre season, effen terrible season most years, situation normal, better than 2020. Think I will buy my membership before I change my mind. Go Dees

I had about 20 members cards from 67 till 90, in a draw , gathering dust. We got robbed. Why would anyone take members cards from when Demons were terrible. Those and the Hasselblad system. I was devastated. Keep them safe !

Agree hope Tracca is watching Dusty !!

Good question ! What I want to know Was he wearing his club blazer and tie ? And if not, why not.

I think i agree, mostly a rolling scrum, with no application of "in the back" or "incorrect disposal" just shovel it to your guys ! At least there are no distance limits and 4 downs, stuff made for TV. But its getting there, and we can all speak with a Californian accent, and Vote for Donald. Cannot wait !

Whatever anyone thinks about Hardwick, and I do not like him at all. He has proven to be a competent and able coach. It took a while perhaps, but he is good at what he does, coaches footballers. He has no idea what to do with perceived criticism. Still don't like him but he can coach

My only take on this question is that if JKennett thinks its a good idea, then the only person who would benefit and then only in the short term is JKennett and the Dorks. Think the same for the Sydney Swans. I doubt very much if anyone from the Melbourne based clubs. Apart from those with the biggest fan bases would gain much at all. The clubs pushing this are not interested in the whole of the competition success rather their own individual success. They should structure the games so we all play each other twice, Home and Away. Increase the number of games played, and the players can keep being paid too much. If you can get Tassie in there so much the better, Just my take !

I managed to put a very little on him about 8 weeks ago. Only got 15 to 1 but its probably better than what he is now but not as good as the start of the season. Come on Tracca !!

Yes indeed, The reports of the track watchers in the previous years, always had me believing the best was about to happen. Last year much better, I was just hoping and wanting the best. but far more realistic. Hope we get the same this pre season.

really good to Eddie sitting there pleased that goal I wonder if he will smile ?

To perhaps understand. If you were in the cheer squad 50 years ago the games at Windy hill were always difficult after the match. Bastards. the relationship with the bombers cheer squad, like all the other clubs at that time we’re fine. But their supporters, probably the young ones in gangs, could be dangerous. Can remember being surrounded by 10 or 15 of the .....ts a couple of times. Hate them more after the GF in 2000.

It’s always good to see the pies being beaten. pity it’s geelong. Too many cats supporters around here. Dont like the cats much, arrogant bastardised club. But they are better than the essendcum or blue baggers full of cash or hawthorn dont like htm either, but in this case ABC ! go cats