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What does the reporter ask when Lamb just glares and says “No”. I just can’t hear it. Why can’t they give the journos microphones?!

For me he’s better suited to the role we were having Jordon play in 2022. And might give Hunter or Langdon a scare if they don’t pull their fingers out. He’s quick, a good runner, good field kick (has shocking goal kicking yips though) and hasn’t ever really had a chance to put his best out there consistently. This is some of the midfield depth we lost with Jordon and Harmes, not inside depth, but depth that complements our inside mid strength (Oliver, Viney, Trac, Sparrow). Shrewd and cheap.

I really don’t rate him. I watched a lot of the Hawks this year, both at VFL and AFL level Koschitzke is just that little bit off. NQR. I don’t think we’ve missed out there. Mitchell Lewis on the other hand is a dead set gun…

If we can go into the draft with pick 6, 11, McAdam, Fullarton, Billings and a backup ruck like Lycett we’ll have done incredibly well. Billings as wing depth, two potential ruck options should Gawny get sore or need a rest and some x-factor for the forwardline. That ticks all our boxes. Not to mention some potential gun mids or a move for one exceptional talent. Go Dees!

A question about McAdam is if he comes how do we clear list spots to use our draft picks? We currently have two senior list spots and two A Rookie spots (according to the excellent work of the list thread). If we bring in McAdam we only have one senior list spot left. And that’s if we move Melksham to the rookie list to fill one of the two A rookie spots (if that’s even allowed?). Assuming we are taking at least one, maybe two or three draft picks who are we dropping from the list?

Can Melksham be offered a rookie contract similar to what we did with Mitch Brown a few years ago or have the rules changed?

Absolutely, I’m sorry if I’ve mixed up your comments with others also. Ironic that I be so petty in the Petty thread huh? All good.

That says neither that he will play round one, nor that he is fine, nor that he is 100%. You have to admit that. You made all three of those things up and if that’s your only quote you have proven my point. I have heard his program is tailored to have him playing early next year. I believe in our program, Harry and choose to be optimistic. I may be wrong, I’m not Nostradamus, but I certainly don’t think the tone that was pervading in this thread at the time of, we should trade him as his value will never be higher is as likely as what I have posted. Take it or leave it.

Sorry, I was getting a bit overly combative in this thread. The “Petty will never be at higher value” with the implication “two serious foot injuries” would mean he never play well enough to warrant higher draft picks in the next two year discussion triggered me. I think he will be far higher value as a two time premiership full forward who kicks 50 goals two seasons in a row. I also agree our club is very good at being leak proof and doing a sterling job on that front. Sometimes I think we do too good a job as I think two months into Harry’s recovery probably warrants an update. Hence why I posted what I’ve heard, I rarely do. I could of course be wrong, not because of bad info but because the world is cruel. As Webber says even if the Lisfranc heals quickly and permanently there is a chance of other injuries being caused by a range of factors in the recovery process. I’m choosing to bet on what I’ve heard, our program and Harry, I could be wrong, chance is cruel. After all our AFLW team lost a pivotal game due to Paxy having a concussion incident with her dog! Anything can happen. But the narrative that Petty should be traded now because he’s not going to improve his value, or too injured, is just pure negativity and triggered me. Sorry.

No one said he was 100% fine. Quote that comment. Setbacks happen, no one can predict the future, you have no idea who I am or what I do and certainly won’t be saying given the vitriol on here. Ive heard there’s a chance he’s back in the early part of the season, that’s still a 6/7 month recovery. Take it or leave it. Berate me in March If i turn out to be wrong. But don’t make stuff up.

I had heard that Harrison’s injury was serious. But that he would be doing light running after Xmas. Low impact training throughout Jan/Feb with an eye to joining full training in late Feb/March and playing in the early part of the season if there’s no major setbacks. He had surgery in August, that’s 6-7 months out, that’s very serious, more serious than Frittas 8-10 weeks. I know you know people from inside the club so I’d suggest you ask Fritta when he thinks Harry will be back next time. See if I’m full of it.

So you’re saying trade him now because he’s crippled and won’t play good footy again? You’re assuming Burgess and Adelaide are stupid and haven’t done their due diligence? He’ll play early next year. Bet on it.

Petty will have a higher trade value in SA next year. Both SA clubs will be in a position to trade for him, PA will have the picks from Butters leaving at a minimum, the Crows, despite the hype will still have decent draft picks. No Doodee, No Petty, very few good backs, a decent but not outstanding midfield, Walker a year older, they’re finishing 7-12. The revisionism here is incredible, Petty had an injury interrupted year THIS year, he’s 23, he’s not getting worse in future. He missed 5 games with a foot THIS YEAR in the middle of the season, came back and then missed the final 6 games again. His form was patchy, he played back, then forward, then back again and then finally forward where he struck form, for two and a half games. After a full preseason in one position, next to an older, stronger JVR, Petty will rip it up next year. He won’t miss “all of preseason” he’ll be back doing light running when we return and doing modified training after Xmas, fitness wise he’ll have a great chance to build a good base. The “Petty’s value will never be higher” argument is coming from Adelaide, it’s the only reason MFC would CONSIDER moving him on. It’s malarkey.

I think Petty may well be ready for round one but if he isn’t I think it will be: One of Brown, Fullarton or Schache (back up Ruck), JVR, Smith, Fritsch, Chandler, ANB, and one of Laurie, Woey or Spargo (I forgot Kozzie is suspended, or blanked it from my memory) Who are you replacing? Do you really want to only have JVR as backup ruck and no true tall forward when he’s rucking? Clearly we’re drafting McAdam to play, I don’t have a problem with us getting him, but he’s replacing someone in the forwardline I’ve just listed and the only options I see are Smith or Fritsch. I don’t think we will go small. I don’t know enough about him to know but is he an upgrade on those two? That’s my confusion.

Yep, I remember, what a load of horse [censored]! While that shoulder plunging thug is walking around with a premiership medal. What a wonderful system the MRP is.

So you are suggesting that our round one forwardline will be: JVR (backup ruck duties also), Fritsch, McAdam, Smith, Kozzie, Chandler, ANB. That’s dynamic for sure, but our field kicking will need to improve markedly because only one maybe two of those players has a remote chance of taking a big contested mark.

He’s not big enough to play Petty’s role. If Petty’s still out come the season it’ll be a bigger player replacing him. If McAdam replaces Petty we’re going very small and putting huge pressure on Max and especially when JVR rucks. I doubt that very much. If he’s replacing Melksham then Smith goes back to sub? I don’t think you can have all of Fritsch, McAdam and Smith in the same forwardline.

Future second round is fine. We tend to trade away our second and third round picks to move up at the moment anyway. And we have two second and two third round picks next year already. I’m a little confused as to why we want him though. Who’s spot is he taking? Right now our forwardline next year is: Petty, JVR, Fritsch, Smith, Chandler, Kozzie, ANB with Fullarton, Schache, TMac, Brown as tall forward back up and Melksham, Laurie, Spargo, Sestan, Jefferson and possibly even Woey pushing for forwardline spots. Can you play McAdam, Fritsch, Smith with Petty and JVR? That seems very top heavy. Are we dropping Smith for McAdam? It sure as hell won’t be Fritsch. From what I’ve seen McAdam doesn’t play small? I don’t get it. I would’ve thought an experienced back up ruck, a power tall forward, a developing key back and some quality skilled mids/wings would be better for our list. But our second future second round pick is nothing, particularly given our holistic approach to pick trades. So go for it I guess?

If they think that they are wrong. Grundy will either stay on our list or find a club that offers us a suitable pick in the 20s-30s. It’s Grundy who wants to leave, his manager started doing the rounds and making noises the instant we made him play in the 2s. My understanding is that the club was genuine, we wanted him to do some work on his forward craft and defensive application at VFL level and as soon as that happened Brodie made noises to the media about how we had “misled him” and his manager starting shopping him around. Part of him not playing against Carlton in the final was because he went to Sydney for an interview that week rather than attend the club, which showed where his head was at. We owe him nothing and if clubs don’t give us what we want he will stay on the list as backup. There’s no bluff here.

We got Grundy for pick 27 as a 29 year old who hadn’t played a game of footy for almost a year and was still injured while we had the best ruckman in the game on our list. Collingwood rated him BEHIND Cameron and Cox on their list. Sydney have no ruckman, we have no quality mature backup ruckman, we don’t have a problem with cap space, we are likely to replace Hibberd, Dunstan, Harmes with young draftees, giving us MORE cap space. We don’t HAVE to trade Grundy, if he wants to sook he can sit in the stands for a year on a million dollars and we have backup if the unthinkable happened and Max got injured, at which stage Grundy would probably get all “I love the Dees” “demon symbol on forehead” again and play well. Sydney have to offer us something that makes us want to move him, we don’t make our opponents better for nothing and contrary to the media speculation, we don’t owe Brodie anything, he’s had every chance and would have every chance again next year if he stayed and showed a willingness to work on his flaws.

Whoops I was thinking semi finals. No QF at the G since 2000 is very sad. Unfortunately we did create the record of being the first team in the history of the current top 8 system to go out in straight sets from top 4 two years in a row. Sad. But we did make three consecutive finals series for the first time since 2006?

As crazy as it seems with the Grundy situation we need a quality ruck on our list. As it stands we are one injury to a 32 year old ruckman away from having Will Verral or KFW as our ruck, or Schache, JVR or heaven forbid Tom Mc in there! We will simply have to rest Max, he simply can’t ruck 90% for a full season! I get that Grundy didn’t work but if he’d been willing to swallow his pride there would’ve been a spot for him moving forward, Max will need to be managed moving forward and he could’ve been playing games as number one ruck increasingly regularly over the next three years. Obviously a gun key forward would be nice, but I don’t see any high quality ones available and gettable. We also have a huge opportunity with ours and Freo’s picks to get some bonafide gun mids to add to the quality we already have, I’d be loathe to trade them. Out: Hibbo, Dunstan, D Smith, Jordon, Grundy, Brown?, TMac?, In: At least one, preferably two, quality backup rucks (Flynn, Lynch, McLean, Goldstein) Quality mids: Picks 4 and 13 A forward if available (or we go in with Petty, JVR, Jeffo, Fritsch, Melksham?, Smith) The BIG one, an effective forward/goalkicking coach, A midfield coach who can balance our full ground defense with some decent ball movement

Ye of little faith, we’ll win anyway!!!

Must play two rucks against the Pies. in: Grundy, TMac out: Smith (to sub), Melk(so unlucky!), Laurie

Interesting win. Felt like we were going along in third gear but did enough to win. Fritsch is a star. It’s easy to forget how incredible he is. All the talk about Adelaide’s score review, a dodgy score review cost us second spot! Smash those pies!