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No one said he was 100% fine. Quote that comment. Setbacks happen, no one can predict the future, you have no idea who I am or what I do and certainly won’t be saying given the vitriol on here. Ive heard there’s a chance he’s back in the early part of the season, that’s still a 6/7 month recovery. Take it or leave it. Berate me in March If i turn out to be wrong. But don’t make stuff up.

I had heard that Harrison’s injury was serious. But that he would be doing light running after Xmas. Low impact training throughout Jan/Feb with an eye to joining full training in late Feb/March and playing in the early part of the season if there’s no major setbacks. He had surgery in August, that’s 6-7 months out, that’s very serious, more serious than Frittas 8-10 weeks. I know you know people from inside the club so I’d suggest you ask Fritta when he thinks Harry will be back next time. See if I’m full of it.

So you’re saying trade him now because he’s crippled and won’t play good footy again? You’re assuming Burgess and Adelaide are stupid and haven’t done their due diligence? He’ll play early next year. Bet on it.

Petty will have a higher trade value in SA next year. Both SA clubs will be in a position to trade for him, PA will have the picks from Butters leaving at a minimum, the Crows, despite the hype will still have decent draft picks. No Doodee, No Petty, very few good backs, a decent but not outstanding midfield, Walker a year older, they’re finishing 7-12. The revisionism here is incredible, Petty had an injury interrupted year THIS year, he’s 23, he’s not getting worse in future. He missed 5 games with a foot THIS YEAR in the middle of the season, came back and then missed the final 6 games again. His form was patchy, he played back, then forward, then back again and then finally forward where he struck form, for two and a half games. After a full preseason in one position, next to an older, stronger JVR, Petty will rip it up next year. He won’t miss “all of preseason” he’ll be back doing light running when we return and doing modified training after Xmas, fitness wise he’ll have a great chance to build a good base. The “Petty’s value will never be higher” argument is coming from Adelaide, it’s the only reason MFC would CONSIDER moving him on. It’s malarkey.

I think Petty may well be ready for round one but if he isn’t I think it will be: One of Brown, Fullarton or Schache (back up Ruck), JVR, Smith, Fritsch, Chandler, ANB, and one of Laurie, Woey or Spargo (I forgot Kozzie is suspended, or blanked it from my memory) Who are you replacing? Do you really want to only have JVR as backup ruck and no true tall forward when he’s rucking? Clearly we’re drafting McAdam to play, I don’t have a problem with us getting him, but he’s replacing someone in the forwardline I’ve just listed and the only options I see are Smith or Fritsch. I don’t think we will go small. I don’t know enough about him to know but is he an upgrade on those two? That’s my confusion.

Yep, I remember, what a load of horse [censored]! While that shoulder plunging thug is walking around with a premiership medal. What a wonderful system the MRP is.

So you are suggesting that our round one forwardline will be: JVR (backup ruck duties also), Fritsch, McAdam, Smith, Kozzie, Chandler, ANB. That’s dynamic for sure, but our field kicking will need to improve markedly because only one maybe two of those players has a remote chance of taking a big contested mark.

He’s not big enough to play Petty’s role. If Petty’s still out come the season it’ll be a bigger player replacing him. If McAdam replaces Petty we’re going very small and putting huge pressure on Max and especially when JVR rucks. I doubt that very much. If he’s replacing Melksham then Smith goes back to sub? I don’t think you can have all of Fritsch, McAdam and Smith in the same forwardline.

Future second round is fine. We tend to trade away our second and third round picks to move up at the moment anyway. And we have two second and two third round picks next year already. I’m a little confused as to why we want him though. Who’s spot is he taking? Right now our forwardline next year is: Petty, JVR, Fritsch, Smith, Chandler, Kozzie, ANB with Fullarton, Schache, TMac, Brown as tall forward back up and Melksham, Laurie, Spargo, Sestan, Jefferson and possibly even Woey pushing for forwardline spots. Can you play McAdam, Fritsch, Smith with Petty and JVR? That seems very top heavy. Are we dropping Smith for McAdam? It sure as hell won’t be Fritsch. From what I’ve seen McAdam doesn’t play small? I don’t get it. I would’ve thought an experienced back up ruck, a power tall forward, a developing key back and some quality skilled mids/wings would be better for our list. But our second future second round pick is nothing, particularly given our holistic approach to pick trades. So go for it I guess?

If they think that they are wrong. Grundy will either stay on our list or find a club that offers us a suitable pick in the 20s-30s. It’s Grundy who wants to leave, his manager started doing the rounds and making noises the instant we made him play in the 2s. My understanding is that the club was genuine, we wanted him to do some work on his forward craft and defensive application at VFL level and as soon as that happened Brodie made noises to the media about how we had “misled him” and his manager starting shopping him around. Part of him not playing against Carlton in the final was because he went to Sydney for an interview that week rather than attend the club, which showed where his head was at. We owe him nothing and if clubs don’t give us what we want he will stay on the list as backup. There’s no bluff here.

We got Grundy for pick 27 as a 29 year old who hadn’t played a game of footy for almost a year and was still injured while we had the best ruckman in the game on our list. Collingwood rated him BEHIND Cameron and Cox on their list. Sydney have no ruckman, we have no quality mature backup ruckman, we don’t have a problem with cap space, we are likely to replace Hibberd, Dunstan, Harmes with young draftees, giving us MORE cap space. We don’t HAVE to trade Grundy, if he wants to sook he can sit in the stands for a year on a million dollars and we have backup if the unthinkable happened and Max got injured, at which stage Grundy would probably get all “I love the Dees” “demon symbol on forehead” again and play well. Sydney have to offer us something that makes us want to move him, we don’t make our opponents better for nothing and contrary to the media speculation, we don’t owe Brodie anything, he’s had every chance and would have every chance again next year if he stayed and showed a willingness to work on his flaws.

Whoops I was thinking semi finals. No QF at the G since 2000 is very sad. Unfortunately we did create the record of being the first team in the history of the current top 8 system to go out in straight sets from top 4 two years in a row. Sad. But we did make three consecutive finals series for the first time since 2006?

As crazy as it seems with the Grundy situation we need a quality ruck on our list. As it stands we are one injury to a 32 year old ruckman away from having Will Verral or KFW as our ruck, or Schache, JVR or heaven forbid Tom Mc in there! We will simply have to rest Max, he simply can’t ruck 90% for a full season! I get that Grundy didn’t work but if he’d been willing to swallow his pride there would’ve been a spot for him moving forward, Max will need to be managed moving forward and he could’ve been playing games as number one ruck increasingly regularly over the next three years. Obviously a gun key forward would be nice, but I don’t see any high quality ones available and gettable. We also have a huge opportunity with ours and Freo’s picks to get some bonafide gun mids to add to the quality we already have, I’d be loathe to trade them. Out: Hibbo, Dunstan, D Smith, Jordon, Grundy, Brown?, TMac?, In: At least one, preferably two, quality backup rucks (Flynn, Lynch, McLean, Goldstein) Quality mids: Picks 4 and 13 A forward if available (or we go in with Petty, JVR, Jeffo, Fritsch, Melksham?, Smith) The BIG one, an effective forward/goalkicking coach, A midfield coach who can balance our full ground defense with some decent ball movement

Ye of little faith, we’ll win anyway!!!

Must play two rucks against the Pies. in: Grundy, TMac out: Smith (to sub), Melk(so unlucky!), Laurie

Interesting win. Felt like we were going along in third gear but did enough to win. Fritsch is a star. It’s easy to forget how incredible he is. All the talk about Adelaide’s score review, a dodgy score review cost us second spot! Smash those pies!

I missed the first handball. The other possessions in the first were ordinary. The second point is me writing badly, he did some better things after quarter time it should say. I don’t think he’ll be in the team next week, I didn’t enjoy his performance. Thanks for the corrections.

Out: Laurie In: Fritsch It seems like a lot of the calls about VFL players are based on the stats not actually watching the game. TMac did better than he has most of this year, got a few balls at ground level, took a few good marks and kicked a few goals but still looks in need of at least one more good VFL game before AFL, possibly two, if we get them. It was hardly a dominant display and overall Casey’s loss was very disappointing, after a good start they faded badly with the main issue being turnovers trying to move the ball from half back. Part of this issue was that TMac and Grundy failed to present well up the wing so we were always trying an extra handball in traffic. Hibbo going off possibly concussed contributed to this, he was playing well. Won’t be back til first final, no way we’re risking him now after being conservative with him all year. I rarely pot MFC players but Laurie was ordinary yesterday, very ordinary, dropped numerous marks, had turnovers from his first four disposals and missed easy kicks which is supposed to be his game. He did some good pressure things in the last and finally hit some targets but he’s out of the team if we’re serious next week. We also need a look at how Fritsch and Melksham work together forward. I imagine it means tweaks to the Kozzie/Chandler/ANB setup and how much we play Trac forward. I’m also in the settle Smith forward Tomlinson back camp. The hyperbole on here around Tomlinson is extraordinary, Hawthorn kicked 9 goals yesterday, only 8 of which were with Tomlinson on the ground, his direct opponent Koschizke literally didn’t score! And most of those goals in the first quarter were when our defenders had no chance with the lack of pressure we had on Hawthorn’s transition. Interesting week as if Collingwood and any one of Port or Brisbane win a loss is much, much better for us.

Should the cats keep going and win this and Moore be out for 2 all we need to do is beat Carlton and we’re red hot to be minor premiers. Awesome!!

We’ve come a long way for Oliver and Grundy to be ins in a side that’s already top two! Scary! If we bring our best pressure and contested game we will win this game. Go Dees!

I’ve watched every VFL game this season and all our AFL games and I’m yet to be convinced Schache can take a contested mark. He’s a nice kick, a good mark on a lead but he is soft in marking contests and for that reason absolutely should not play.

In: Grundy, Oliver, Hibberd Out: Petty 😭, Harmes, Smith (to be sub) So much talk about Grundy not being great in the last VFL game. I watched that, terrible conditions for bigs, blowing an absolute gale. Grundy’s worst performances have coincided with terrible conditions, rain at Geelong, torrential rain in the NT, the time to play one ruck was in torrential rain, in good conditions two could be an advantage. Without Grundy we’ve won by 1 point, 4 points and two five goal wins over teams in the bottom six, with him we’re 10-6 including wins over Collingwood and this weeks opponent Carlton, it’s hardly panic stations to have him in. If the weather looks ok Saturday he comes in. His first VFL game as a forward he got involved in much better conditions. He’s no Petty, but Brown was ok against Brisbane for one quarter and terrible against Adelaide in a game we dominated, he’s not offering more than Grundy. Schache is soft as butter in marking contests, he’s not the answer, TMac can’t move sideways and while Smith is good, our forwardline looks too small with JVR, Smith and Melk as the talls, especially when Max is rucking 90% and unable to rest forward. Also if JVR is backup ruck there will be times where we have no true talls forward, if we do that this week Weitering will have a field day, especially if we kick how we did against North, Zeibel was intercepting at will! Grundy actually gives us an advantage in the ruck while Max rests and allows Max to rest forward with JVR rather than on the bench. At worst we freshen Max up for finals with Grundy in the next few games before bringing in a fit TMac or Fritsch, at best we get what we saw in the preseason and first few rounds and the two rucks dominate. It’s worth noting that Gawn looked down on form and confidence coming back from injury early in the season, his best form has coincided with playing as sole ruck but perhaps it’s a coincidence? If Max maintains his form from the last few weeks and Brodie regains his best form we could see something truly special, flag winning special, none of the other options have that upside.

SEN reporting mid foot sprain 5-6 weeks this morning.

Such incredibly bad luck for Harry just as he was hitting top form as a forward. I think it’s time for Grundy. Especially against Carlton with their two rucks (Pittonet, De König) Max needs a chop out and Brodie has done his four week forward craft/freshen up. Brodie won’t give us what Petty does but he will give a contest and hopefully a few marks, possibly one or two goals but importantly he’ll give a lot in the ruck and allow JVR to play forward the whole game. He also lets Max drop behind the ball more while Brodie takes more forward half throw ins also. Of all our options this one has the most possible upside in terms of a flag now that Petty looks to be done. We’re winning clearances now and getting plenty of supply, clean up our kicking and Grundy will contribute, it’s become overblown how big a ‘problem’ he was forward. There were games like our Collingwood win and other early season wins where he kicked multiple goals and looked good coming back from a full season off. Our last Carlton win relied on Grundy rucking so Max could hit the scoreboard as a forward, it can work! Brodie’s hungry, he’s learned some new skills, let’s go for it, while hoping Petty has a miracle sprain and is back for finals.

The only reason Kane is not doing his usual schtick of taking the most extreme position possible is because it’s Port Adelaide. He’s hopelessly compromised when it comes to them, any other club and he would be fire and brimstone. As for Healey this same attitude pervaded the whole Essendon saga, “it was a mistake”, “the weren’t really trying to get an advantage”, “they’re good blokes”. Blind Freddy could see what happened here, they tried to game the system to gain a competitive advantage and damn the potential health consequences for the player. As you say this needs to be taken out of the entire AFL’s hands, the boys club has shown itself to not be able to be impartial and adjudicate laws effectively in these scenarios. I’m sure any independent review panel would find this egregiously out of line. Medical negligence is a thing for doctors too, they’re not perfect and this situation appears to fit the bill!