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Tribunal. Have to.

There’s an excellent post on page four of this thread that has the picture of the fines for low impact offences and how they go up based on first, second, third offence. You can’t take previous actions into account when determining the sentence but the fines are determined by how many suspensions have happened recently. Sorry if I wasn’t clear in making that distinction.

The rules don’t have a ‘lifting of the elbow’ clause. It’s careless, high, low impact. That’s a fine. If they find a way to make it a week we will challenge and win.

Fine. Probably $6k because of Kozzie’s recent record.

I truly can’t believe those saying this is anything like the Maynard one. There are clearly some fans that have made up their minds on Kozzie and want him to pay due to their perceptions. The only thing they have in common is both tried to smother, otherwise. Compare the pair: Maynard: front on, travelling towards kicker, misses the smother immediately then has more time to decide what to do. Lowers shoulder and turns, fist clenched, flexing for the hit square on the head with his shoulder. Impact is front on direct, so intense the player is knocked out cold, through a helmet, for two minutes. Kozzie: jumps on the spot, ball goes past him much later into his jump, clumsily tucks in elbow, hand open and loose, not flexing for the hit, glances Soligo once he is beyond him with his upper arm. Impact is glancing to the side, Kozzie is beyond Soligo and Soligo runs into him. The impact is so light that Soligo gets up and plays on immediately, is not assessed, has no injury of any kind. This is a careless, high, low impact fine. Anything else we go to the tribunal and FWIW I think the club would LOVE that as it gives us a chance to point to the Maynard decision, why the rule was brought in and point out the clear difference in impact. The media bias against us is so shameful, I’m not reading or listening anymore, they give air to absolute, credibility-less rubbish and whack our players any chance they get. Filth.

If this is anything other than careless, high, low impact, fine we should sue. Seriously, we lost a player FOREVER to a bump with ten times the impact, more intent and incredibly severe consequences, (it knocked a player out through a helmet for two minutes FFS!) for NO suspension! Also the media can get stuffed! Where’s the “football act” horseplop from last year?! Or the “love tap” bulltish from last week?! Maynard ends a guys career, “football act, can’t suspend for that”. Pendlebury tries some martial arts to the diaphragm “love tap”, Kozzie jumps on the spot to smother a handball and lightly brushed a guys cheek, “suspend him, coach discipline him he has issues!!”. [censored] this noise! It was a free kick, but because the AFL needs to protect the head in the wake of the serious time it failed to protect the head six months ago it will be a fine, any more than that and the MFC should seriously consider legal action.

More a children’s magician than a wizard I reckon. Cheap tricks with no real magic.

Ditto. Scared the hell out of mine.

One of our players does, his name is Kozzie Pickett, similarly to Ginnivan he got a rep for lifting the shoulder and ducking and since then I don’t remember the last time he got a too high free. There were at least two times this weekend he got clobbered high much worse than Ginnivan just did for no free.

Ginnivan is a very average player. Tries the hard stuff too often, never does the simple stuff. Soft. Tragedy he got a medal last year. May was right.

Hawks can do the whole AFL and society in general a HUGE favour by winning the next two. Particularly next week…

It looked to me like he jarred his knee. Very frustrating they never followed up. But he seemed to run it out by the next contest and played out the game. If he did jar it he would be mighty sore today. Fingers crossed he gets up.

I think it’s a role made for Melksham in the back half of the year. Can play forward, play in bursts on wing/on ball and even pinch hit on the HB line. He’s the kind of player that can break the game open with a dynamic last quarter. Coming back from a serious injury Sub might be made for Melksham. Although if our luck with injury improves selection will get tough. No idea how we fit McAdam, Bowey, Hunter, Melksham, Woey, Spargo, Hore all in let alone Kolt, Verrall, Adams and Jefferson if they keep improving. Nice problem to have.

A lot of mentions of Fullarton in here. Perhaps as he was named as emergency but watching the Casey game on the weekend and also in the pre-season games Verrall is offering more up forward and in the ruck this year. If we’re pulling the trigger on resting a BBB (I’d be loathe to do it unless absolutely necessary as he’s a revelation this year!) or want backup for Max I’d bring Verrall in. Fullarton is ok, but he plays more as a rangy extra mid in the ruck and gets around the ground on a lead but doesn’t take congested marks up forward where Verrall is similarly athletic in the ruck and around the ground but offers more up forward and seems to have more of the Max Gawn school of ruck craft. On May, I understand the calls to rest him but if the issue is pain management not reoccurrence or worsening the injury as our club is saying then it might be better to take the risk this week. With Hore as the sub and the option of throwing Petty back if May can’t play the game out I give us a much better chance against an out of form Adelaide than Brisbane. Find May can’t play through the pain early against Brisbane and we’ll lose, against Adelaide we may still cobble a win. If he makes it through the game against Adelaide it’ll give him extra confidence against Brisbane, especially with the full week to prepare followed by the bye. I think it could be better to give Maysie the chance to see how he goes this week, and good luck stopping him if he thinks he’s ready! Otherwise no changes, Billings plays a feast or famine game and the Port game didn’t suit him, but he still showed some quality and if he’d kicked through the ball in the last would’ve almost sealed the game. Unless there’s mystery injuries, like Chandlers two knees I’d be going: In May Out Woey, Hore to sub.

Saints have kept the Bombers in this game with poor goal kicking, annoying, I hate the Bombers. On the umps, what has happened to HTB this season? It’s always been hit and miss and they’ve always called far too few incorrect disposal for my liking but the absolute classic ‘take them on, get tackled, drop ball, HTB’ is just not getting paid this year. It’s a blight on the game, that’s the best bit of the rule!!

JVR is in his third season, he was always bulky. He played seniors at the start of his second season after a fairly dominant first season in the VFL where he kicked a large number of goals in a premiership. He definitely grew his fitness base before the second season doing running in the off season with Knuckle and Woey but I don’t think bulk/strength was ever his issue. Jeffo is a different type, rangy, great hands, good goal sense, usually better kicking, can get around the ground. The improvement in his pressure game and positioning after his time on the wing and in the backline is evident. I think he still needs to work on his fitness as his second efforts can be lacking but he’s growing into a good second forward and if his confidence and fitness grows he could become a very good option in a year or so. I see Kolt in the Tom Sparrow and early career Trac mould. A powerful half forward who rotates through the midfield.

Tomlinson, Disco, Hunter, Laurie, Melksham, McAdam, Bowey, Spargo, not to mention Smith make this a much, much stronger team. Casey will come home hard this season if we can have some luck with injury and smooth returns. Silver lining for the moment is our kids are getting experience in key roles. Tholstrup won’t play this much midfield time at AFL for many years but this is great experience. Jeffo is growing as a key forward.

Last week there was very little to be excited about. This week Verrall has been great. Jeffo showing his quality. Adams much improved down back. Kolt and Sestan beasts. AMW shows a lot of dash, guts and skill. Brown shows a bit. Plenty to take away from this for us.

Jefferson’s time down back looks to have helped his follow up and positioning down the ground. He’s looking excellent today, goal kicking aside.

All the better for us. If we have Verrall and Kalani White playing Ruck/forward and developing behind Gawn in his last few (hopefully five more!) seasons we’re doing pretty well.

Verrall is very very good for a second year Ruck. I think it’s easy to forget he is only in his second year and that his first was very interrupted through injury. Once he gets his fitness up to get to more contests and clunks a few more marks he’ll be AFL ready.

This week is very difficult to pick, as far as I can see it we have three options. I’m going glass half full and Lever and Chin get up. In no particularly order: 1. Keep Petty forward, Bring in Tomlinson for May, Hore stays sub. 2. Petty back for May, bring Fullarton or AMW or another forward in. Hore stays sub. 3. Hore in for May, Petty back, Riv, Salem play more mid, play slightly smaller up front. Runner as sub AMW or Woey etc. My preference is 2 as Port are pretty big up forward and I see Petty as a better matchup for Dixon, with TMac on Finlayson and Howes or Lever manning Marshall. But I could see us going with 1, I would’ve leant that way had Tommo’s kicking not been so putrid in the VFL. 3 would be very risky but could pay off if Max can roll back to help out blocking Dixon and Marshall. Tough.

The year we won it Stephen May missed 3 weeks (we got lucky with the Richmond game meaning it was only 3 games when he actually missed 4 weeks) with a fractured eye socket after Tom Hawkins threw his elbow back in his face. We then lost our other form key back, Adam Tomlinson to an ACL against North when he was in career best form and had locked down the third KPD the week Maysie was ready to come back, with his replacement, young Harrison Petty causing much hand wringing at first. We were also without our then two first choice forwards Brown and Weideman for most of the first 10 weeks with injury with their replacements, TMac and a young Luke Jackson, surprising everyone by taking it by storm. We have our injury challenges this year, exacerbated by the loss of Brayshaw and Smith, but our premiership year also had its challenges and this current situation may just enable us to find a new setup that makes us even better. Fingers crossed.

Commentary just said May has been released from hospital with a suspected broken rib, 1-2 weeks. Lever got good results on the scan his knee and pending some more follow up could be available to play this week.

You mean the number 1 defensive AFL team of the past four years?! Pull the other one!