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Exactly. There is actually no problem with the HTB rule if they just adjudicate it consistently. Give a player a moment to get rid of the ball, if they get tackled before that moment, basically immediately, ball it up, quickly. If they then dispose of it, regardless of time, if the tackle is not good enough to stop the player handballing or kicking it’s not good enough full stop. The reasonable time rule was stupid when it was introduced and led to the blight on the game of players being barely tackled or having a bloke lightly holding their jumper despite disposing of the ball in the tackle having HTB paid against them! There’ll be heaps of that this week, just lightly grab a blokes jumper, preferably so they can’t feel it and appeal to the umpire. No need to tackle in a way that actually stops them disposing of it. Stupid! Had prior, didn’t dispose of it, ball pinned. HTB If they drop the ball. HTB! Drag it in on the ground or dive on it. HTB. That’s it, be vigilant with incorrect disposal, maybe some slick handballs get pinged, so be it. But be generous with prior, ball ups aren’t evil, stoppages are so slick these days the play will move, That’s the better form of the rule, you have a chance, don’t take it, tackled well, bang, done. We’re about to see some rubbish decisions this week on the back of a knee jerk reaction. Also, with the real rules there’s no reason not to take someone to the ground in a tackle, do it safely, roll them, HTB, that’s what Andrew should’ve done, not change the whole game so he doesn’t have to take Curnow down. Then again JVR did that perfectly and the ump robbed us of the game. Bloody AFL inconsistency. This rule change also seems to imply that more dangerous tackles will be paid simply because tacklers take the player to ground, another blight on the game.
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I think we outscored our xScore because our kicking was outstanding in the third, kicked some beautiful goals from crazy angles. First quarter Fritsch missed from 45 directly in front, Kozzie missed 2 he should kick, Salem also, Langdon missed a low percentage one from the boundary but also missed 40m out on a slight angle. That’s 0/5 relatively easy shots, hit even two of those, game over. Second half was better but low percentage or no we had the chance to make this a much more enjoyable day, first world problems, but a problem that has cost us before.
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Good win. The good : Max Gawn is GOAT, no question, gets his 7th AA jacket to eclipse Cox, continues to get more Brownlow votes and coaches votes than any other ruck in the modern era and hopefully, if we improve a lot is in the running for 2x Premiership captain. TMac exceptional game. Langdon in a different role works and rotating Windsor, Hunter, Sparrow and Woey on a Wing looked better. Viney and Trac rotating forward was also great and the midfield mix is diversifying, which will help in the long term. Our defense was also far better at stopping them getting out the back than last week although this is still a work in progress. The bad: Our goal kicking in the first half. This should’ve been over at quarter time or at least ten minutes into the second, instead we kicked 9 behinds in a half and left them in the game. A few players are down Caleb Windsor looked tired for the first time this year, to be expected and there’s no way we should drop him, but he’s been so amazing it’s a shame to find out he’s human. McAdam just couldn’t hold his marks doesn’t look fit. He was absolutely cooked in the last quarter, hopefully it’s an adjustment and find AFL tempo and confidence again, there’s no way I’m dropping him, I think he’s clearly in our best forwardline but he still looks a little underdone. Junk time goals to them lowering our percentage. Many would have Petty as a negative also but I think he’s playing a selfless defensive role to get our other forwards free and this week it worked. If we can kick to your Petts the few times he actually gets the chance to get off his man he’ll be fine. I hope he towels up Pearce next week. Go Dees, enjoyable win! I wish we’d brought it against WC but beat Freo next week and we’re on track.
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Umpires have killed us in this game. Every 50/50 call has gone their way and every clear one for us has been missed.
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Early days but: JEFFO CAN PLAY. He will be an AFL forward if he keeps developing and working on his body and fitness. Competes hard, can take a mark and is doing great things at ground level. K Brown looks great in the midfield, clean hands, poise. Sestan is a live wire up forward, looks more an AFL/VFL player these days with his body and fitness. Developing nicely and doing so special things. Verral will be an AFL level ruck in 1-2 years and may even surprise sooner than that. He’s a gun. Adams does a lot better behind the ball when he’s not competing with Tomlinson for every mark. (Also helps that Brisbanes forwards are rubbish). The negatives, Hunter is not knocking down the door, for a bloke who would’ve thought one wing would be his this year, particularly with Langdon out, he looks slow and as a result plays for a free every time he gets the ball and shanks kicks or kicks to no one far too often. AMW does some good things but has Jayden Huntitis, bombs an all his kicks to no one and tries to do a bit too much, gets the ball and has speed and nice hands though. Great first quarter Casey!
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Before the Casey game I would’ve had: In: McAdam, Verrell, Salem Out: JVR (concussion), Turner, Billings We may go with BBB and have Petty play backup ruck but I think Verrell can play more ruck minutes and we would be wise to help Max a bit after a bruising two weeks for him (mostly illegally but apparently the GOAT ruckman doesn’t deserve any protection at all). Having Bowey, Howes, Rivers with Woey also showing a bit down back (I’d still have him sub or Billing’s sub with Woey playing more forward) in the same team we finally get to see Salem play midfield for the first time since preseason. When Bowey went down Salo was forced to go back and we haven’t seen the setup that looked so promising in pre-season with he and Rivers rotating through the midfield. The Carlton game was annoying as we are the better team and really owe them one especially as it would’ve made this season far easier, finals a near fait acompli and be well in the hunt for top two but instead we need to win our next three and set up a huge showdown with the Pies. Hopefully that begins with smashing a wounded Eagles outfit this week!
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Both (us and Geelong) teams coming out so far off the pace after last week’s game speaks volumes about how tough a game it was in those conditions. Last night hurts so bad as all we had to do was play the first quarter at our standard and it was an easy win. Oh well onwards and upwards, I hope Geelong continue to embarrass themselves but we need them to get a bit closer to keep us in the four.
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Do the song while they’re at it?!
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I think we’re pretty settled now. There’s some upgrades in the wings, Melksham>>> Billings Bowey >>> Woey (although Woey is versatile and could be moved elsewhere). McAdam >>> Turner (for now, Turner has massive upside as a forward but the little we’ve seen of McAdam is pure forward craft and incredibly dangerous assets, he’s special if we get him on the park, him and Fritsch in the same forwardline will be a nightmare for most defenses, especially with Petty and Roo finding form). Salem >>> Laurie and Woey. If we can get those four in on the run home without losing anyone we’re a very dangerous team. Especially given Bowey, Salem and Rivers all in the same team has massive midfield rotation potential, especially with May, McDonald, Lever, McVee, Howes looking a pretty unstoppable core defensive setup. The only other one I wouldn’t mind seeing at some point is Verrall playing Forward/2nd ruck at some point. Although they may feel he is still be a year away from AFL level. This week I’d have: In: Bowey Out: Laurie (Woey sub)
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It really didn’t take long for Gleeson and Christiansen to reveal themselves as a corrupt joke. Greene, Butters, Cameron, under the standard applied to Kozzie should ALL have gotten at least a week. There was potential for serious injury in all three, all three involved head high contact, should be at least one week each, probably more, but they don’t play for Melbourne, case closed.
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Christiansen and Gleeson have zero credibility. If this is the new rule and everyone who hits someone high, no matter impact will go for a week, fine. That’s a lot of suspensions though! The fact this was presided over by the guys who firstly refused to even grade Maynard over rough conduct and then the other who let him off make the whole thing a farce. We get worse treatment at the MRO than most clubs. Fact. The number of reports to suspensions is ridiculous, we don’t go that often but when we do we always get worse treatment and our players almost never get off unless we appeal twice. I feel for Kozzie, the contrast in media coverage between an incident in the play involving him and a bloke who judo chopped someone in the solar plexus and another who kicked someone is galling. Let alone Maynard. I’m done with this farce, I’m watching the game and reading Demonland and that’s it. The AFL and it’s media is a corrupt joke.
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I’ve never been so confident. We are winning this. Call the AFL doctor, the Adelaide doctor, a concussion specialist, compare the impact to Fogarty. Medium goes to light, Kozzie plays. Then I’d be tempted to sue the Roar for defamation on Kozzies behalf, “dirtiest player” seemed pretty defamatory to me. It’s time our club starts throwing some legal weight around, a main rumour for Maynard getting off was that Collingwood intended to challenge any ban in court. It’s time we start challenging the journos pedalling credibility less leaks and theories. Goody reportedly already threatened Kane with a defamation suit last year leading to an apology, time for more…
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Seriously, that’s brilliant! How can you possibly call something medium impact when the player wasn’t ever assessed or taken from the field? Especially when the AFL doctor seeing the vision thought it was minimal enough to not even bring him off. That should be enough on its own. But let’s get a biomechanics expert, compare the last ten other medium impact incidents to this one and send Kozzie to Soligo’s Mum’s place with some flowers just to be sure.
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Not sure if this hurts or helps us. On the one hand Brisbane are regrowing their confidence and will be able to rest some players if this continues to blow out in the second half. On the other hand it is difficult to change gears to a hard contest after an easy win..
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How many years does the competition endure North like this for? They’ve got the champion experienced coach, the extra high draft picks, the father sons, and they are still a blight on the comp.
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Exactly. Find another example where medium impact caused no injury at all and the player played on.
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Tribunal. Have to.
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There’s an excellent post on page four of this thread that has the picture of the fines for low impact offences and how they go up based on first, second, third offence. You can’t take previous actions into account when determining the sentence but the fines are determined by how many suspensions have happened recently. Sorry if I wasn’t clear in making that distinction.
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The rules don’t have a ‘lifting of the elbow’ clause. It’s careless, high, low impact. That’s a fine. If they find a way to make it a week we will challenge and win.
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Fine. Probably $6k because of Kozzie’s recent record.
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I truly can’t believe those saying this is anything like the Maynard one. There are clearly some fans that have made up their minds on Kozzie and want him to pay due to their perceptions. The only thing they have in common is both tried to smother, otherwise. Compare the pair: Maynard: front on, travelling towards kicker, misses the smother immediately then has more time to decide what to do. Lowers shoulder and turns, fist clenched, flexing for the hit square on the head with his shoulder. Impact is front on direct, so intense the player is knocked out cold, through a helmet, for two minutes. Kozzie: jumps on the spot, ball goes past him much later into his jump, clumsily tucks in elbow, hand open and loose, not flexing for the hit, glances Soligo once he is beyond him with his upper arm. Impact is glancing to the side, Kozzie is beyond Soligo and Soligo runs into him. The impact is so light that Soligo gets up and plays on immediately, is not assessed, has no injury of any kind. This is a careless, high, low impact fine. Anything else we go to the tribunal and FWIW I think the club would LOVE that as it gives us a chance to point to the Maynard decision, why the rule was brought in and point out the clear difference in impact. The media bias against us is so shameful, I’m not reading or listening anymore, they give air to absolute, credibility-less rubbish and whack our players any chance they get. Filth.
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If this is anything other than careless, high, low impact, fine we should sue. Seriously, we lost a player FOREVER to a bump with ten times the impact, more intent and incredibly severe consequences, (it knocked a player out through a helmet for two minutes FFS!) for NO suspension! Also the media can get stuffed! Where’s the “football act” horseplop from last year?! Or the “love tap” bulltish from last week?! Maynard ends a guys career, “football act, can’t suspend for that”. Pendlebury tries some martial arts to the diaphragm “love tap”, Kozzie jumps on the spot to smother a handball and lightly brushed a guys cheek, “suspend him, coach discipline him he has issues!!”. [censored] this noise! It was a free kick, but because the AFL needs to protect the head in the wake of the serious time it failed to protect the head six months ago it will be a fine, any more than that and the MFC should seriously consider legal action.
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More a children’s magician than a wizard I reckon. Cheap tricks with no real magic.
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Ditto. Scared the hell out of mine.
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One of our players does, his name is Kozzie Pickett, similarly to Ginnivan he got a rep for lifting the shoulder and ducking and since then I don’t remember the last time he got a too high free. There were at least two times this weekend he got clobbered high much worse than Ginnivan just did for no free.