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I like this team. I think having AJ and Jeffo with JVR makes for a more dynamic forward setup, particularly as I think AJ will ruck more than he usually would against a depleted GWS ruck lineup allowing us to both rest Max and throw him forward. Also AJ is tough, he will take the pressure off JVR to crash every contest and should give him a chance to get some looks on a lead. The downside might be that it does mean Fritsch MUST play with intensity and tackle, we saw some of it this preseason but we also saw him look disinterested and not chase also, I hope he brings his intent. He’ll get good looks as a third/fourth forward but he needs to bring a pressure game. Finally we get to see JVR as a permanent full forward!! Rip em apart Roo!! Jeffo did some good things against North, I like Disco but he hasn’t set the world on fire in the PS games. If Jefferson brings his best it could be exciting and we won’t lose a heap. Langford and Lindsay are class, GWS are lacking inside mids and with Green either not playing or coming back from a calf having another bull to throw in there allowing Trac, Clarry and Viney to be thrown forward at stages is huge! Lindsay looked at home against Freo, I’m excited to see him. Also while I’m excited to see what Henderson can do geez Kynan Brown is stiff, tackling machine, quick, does some nice things. Looked good when he came in against North in preseason. Would’ve thought he’d be a chance. Go Dees!

I know his stats look good but it didn’t feel like a good Toby Greene game. Two of those goals were from free kicks, one a particularly dodgy ducking one where Viney caught him high and another that was also dubious in a marking contest I think? My memory is he barely touched it in the first half with McVee starring, could be wrong though, I was at the game and my memory is coloured by heckling Greene a lot in the first half. Wish he’d been suspended this week though, even his quiet games like that one are damaging. And I don’t know who we have to shut him down.

I still remember how good we were for three quarters against GWS last year with no Trac, half fit Clarry, no Salem, Max returning from injury, Windsor looking tired and sore and Lever on one leg. They only beat us by two points as Hogan got on top of TMac for five minutes and they piled on the goals. We were 5 goals up at quarter time. This is winnable, especially with a fit Trac, Clayton, Max and Lever. McVee being injured hurts us as he put a warm blanket on Toby Green last time and our record without Kozzie in the team is pretty woeful, Melksham, ANW and ANB were also important last time. But the additions of Langford, XL, Petty back and Sharp give me hope that we can hold our own. Also Max against no recognised ruckman must be exploited and could be the key. Dees by 5 goals.

Toby Green to be suspended for a boot to the face of Maynard would be chef’s kiss beautiful.

GWS are REALLY committed to dumb skits huh?!

Seriously?!

What happened to Hogan? Will he miss next week?

I hate both these teams so much. I hope the coin flip hits me in the head and knocks me out so I don’t have to choose. I’m going to barrack for (minor) injuries.

And yet this trade period we didn’t, in fact Tim Lamb didn’t even spin if we were a destination club after the Houston trade fell apart. He admitted we had issues in an open press conference. Goody also is pretty truthful to a fault. Sure, clubs and players lie about trades, Houston is a great example, Luke Jackson etc etc. But it was clear as day that the president, list manager, head of football, coach and even the GFC list manager weren’t bluffing in this case and yet the media continued to build on the story well after all these people made clear statements, leading to the “cleared out his locker” insanity that continues to be ridiculed. Damian Barrett even used the Oliver situation to call us a “mess of a club” AFTER Oliver stayed (note the Shand review stating while there were issues it was hardly as bad as the media were making out). The reason we are interacting in this thread is you used the idea that Clayton and Geelong were interested in the trade as proof that those of us who believed Green, Lamb, Richo and Goody (and Mackie) and the noises inside that club that Clayton wouldn’t be traded, were somehow wrong, happy clappers, deluded etc. We weren’t, we were 100% right, Clayton was held to his contract and the MFC side was never trading him at any point during the trade period, the Green conversation had already occurred, hence why Lamb and Mackie shut it down day one! I would’ve left it as a simple joke but then you asked me to show my workings and I’ve wasted time trawling through online articles to show you the proof despite the fact most of this happened on trade radio for which there is no searchable archive and is also well documented in the trade thread on here. And yet, even when I send you the links you still reject the truth because ‘clubs lie in trade period’. Cmon mate.

He’s saying it’s still on the table in spite of every Melbourne leader saying it wasn’t. On the table is still happening. It’s more than weasel words, it’s directly contradicting the MFC. Barrett: After Green and Richo say he’s staying: https://www.facebook.com/watch/?v=383936567988084 After Lamb and Mackie shut it down Fox Sportswww.foxsports.com.auAFL trades 2024: Trade period day 1 live blog, Monday latest news, updates, Jack ... Facebook · AFL Trade Rumours, Draft & Offseason News140+ reactions · 5 months agoGeelong are... - AFL Trade Rumours, Draft & Offseason News And if you want to trawl through trade radio, if there’s an archive somewhere, I can’t find it, he says “I believe Oliver to Geelong still gets done, probably very late in the trade period” on the 14th of October. You can also trawl the Demonland thread if you wish, it’s quoted there somewhere. Enough, it’s over, it was an awful saga for us fans, but the media by refusing to acknowledge senior MFC figures statements, drove a story that was over well beyond when it was done. Mainly at the instigation of GFC in my opinion. Let’s enjoy what the footy holds next week. Enough.

I know. He says “the Oliver trade is still live” despite every senior MFC figure saying it wasn’t. It’s also the easiest clip to google, there are many more but frankly I’m not wasting my time. He’s an MFC player. Those of us who said the MFC wasn’t trading him because we believed Lamb Richo and Green were right. Live in a fantasy where he went to Geelong if you want. I made a joke, sue me, I’m off to a more relevant thread to trawl for info on JVR’s back.

Yes, they did. Here’s Tom Morris saying Clayton is still live to be going to Geelong AFTER Richo Tim Lamb AND Brad Green all put it to bed. McClure did the same thing. Damien Barrett went even harder and said it would definitely happen on the last day. How right they were! https://www.facebook.com/SEN1116/videos/tom-clayton/941809314368544/

You’re absolutely right. Clayton now plays for Geelong, they nailed it! And those of us who said Geelong and Clayton + management were driving the trade but it would never happen as Lamb, Richo, Green and Goody all put it to bed immediately, how wrong we were! It’s going to be hell to see him in the hoops this year but at least we have that new very similar looking number 13 who had 3 goals and 28 disposals and looks alright! 🙄🙄🙄

Brisbane looking at that, of the players they have listed for us the actual list is: AMW SEASON McAdam SEASON Kentfield TBC Hore TBC Tholstrup mid season McVee: Round 4 Kozzie (Susp) Round 4 The rest are all playing or in training. Not great but not terrible. That’s 2 best 22 players NA through injury and suspension early and two fringe players out. Many other clubs the same.

I hope we play our best available team and see if we have learned any lessons about how to handle Freo’s midfield and transition. Maybe Freo won’t show their hand but they destroyed us twice last year in a way that showed they had an advantage not only in form but some deep tactic we couldn’t handle. Our aims should be no injuries, have a good warm up and see what we can do about their midfield to start the season positively. Go Dees.

Is there anywhere to watch this online?

Maybe I’ve missed something but Trac is in the 2K time trial video from today? Looks fit and runs well. Was this pre the rib injury? Same session I assume but after the 2k?

He saw a Magpie fly over.

Kate is, without a doubt, one of the top 5 players in the AFLW. She’d be amongst the first picked for any team alongside Hanks. It’s ridiculous she wasn’t nominated. If Hore had played our Hawthorn game we’d be playing finals. Probably preparing to knock Hawthorn out in straight sets (just btw Hawthorn vs top 4 this year, 0-1. MFC 1-3, Hawthorn vs 5-8 2-0, MFC 1-2. Outside the 8 Hawthorn 8-0, MFC 4-0. Hawthorn’s fixture was a rigged joke!) Moral of the story Kate Hore is a star.

Hoping for: 5. Draper 9. Smillie

Are you able to somehow point me in the direction of the unmentionable story please?

I think we should go mids too, but I’m trying to work out what the thinking is if we don’t. The Lions midfield has been massive beneficiaries of Father/Son and good trading (Neale, Dunkley), Raynor is one of the few early draft picks doing the work for them in there. Pick 5 will be a gamble regardless, but if a star kid is available I hope we pick them. Just saying it’s possible our list management team think Windsor, Tholstrup, Rivers, McVee is a star midfield of the future hence going tall. Also if we’re going for now, a mid makes more sense, which I think we should.

There’s always the possibility we play both Rivers and McVee as mids next year. Then if we take Armstrong at 5 you have: Gawn, Trac, Oliver, Viney, Rivers, McVee, Windsor, Kolt + Kozzie in bursts, Sharp, Brown and potentially pick 9 as your mids. Salem, Bowey, Howes, Taj, Hore, AMW, as your medium/small backs. That’s not a bad list to choose from at all. Plus if one or both of Jeffo and Armstrong come on you have JVR, Jeffo, Armstrong, Verrell vying for your KPF places giving us the luxury of swinging one or both of Petty and Turner back.

Geez we miss Kate Hore. With Beasley out as well we just don’t have the midfield rotations. Also Fitzy seems to be running with Bates who is just torching her with her gut running. That said the call against Zanker in the marking contest was total rubbish. Perfect bodywork in the side, no different to McDonough’s work at the other end. Good to see free kick Hawthorn transcends gender.🙄 Cmon girls! Find a way!

The good: Hanks, Gall, Goldy, Blaithin, McNamara The Bad, Hawks in space and bursting from stoppage while we look slow The ugly: Kelly Underwood hasn’t called a single MFC player correctly. Chaplin was Goldy twice, Hanks was McNamara. FCS. It’s your one job as a commentator! Know the players names and numbers!