Moonshadow

And the reason why Roos dropped him to Casey, never to be seen again

Last post to you. No real point anymore. You can continue if you want I agree with your last sentence. Any violence is terrible whoever inflicts it and fortunately most people don't. However, if you cannot see that most DV is done by men on women then being brainwashed is your domain, and clearly you are what your user name implies.

I see clearly now after your rant. Thanks Biffen. So it must be my sister's fault that her ex bashed her in front of the kids. Or its the feminazis, or that she's educated, or its the Marxists, or Muslims, or that she didnt work while raising kids, yadda yadda yadda. And it's her fault that dispite working full time earning cash he now contributes jack sht towards the cost of raising his kids and chooses to spend little time with them. We each have our own personal bias, but that doesn't negate the responsibility of men to not abuse their partners or kids, nor the fact that most DV is done by men.

Gotta laugh at a guy who claims confirmed statistics are lies and uses his own alleged knowledge of some men to say it's half/half. According to that logic, all footy fans must barrack for Melbourne. Mate, you can believe what you want, but it all remains a fact that women and kids are the main victims of DV.

All DV is unexceptable. What happened on the Murray to those poor kids is terrible. However, the large majority of DV is perpetrated by men on women and children. Not all, of course, but the stats are pretty clear. To say it's half is simply not true. DV stats

Bet that hurt.

Hoping JKH can keep the running up to maintain his tank. Looking forward to seeing what he can do this year.

IF.... o'Smeara and Mitchell don't fire as hoped, and Hawthorn somewhat slide this year, say to 6th or 7th, and they don't do so well in the draft (haven't they traded their early picks?), and they lose Hodge, Burgs and Gibbo, and...... * insert head exploding gif here *

A little bit of vomit just rose up the back of my throat.

Have to agree. Might be different in 12 months time though. We need to achieve something first IMO.

AND.... they play in the same era so the comparison is clearly valid. FMD!

Jack who?

Too late. You're swimming in the shallow end of the gene pool there

Hawks would also be saying "FA Frawley for nothing = bargain"

How very dare you! Deconstructed decaf latte is my choice Biffen. I am not a chardonnay sipper either. One thing I share with Uncle Bitter is enjoyment of a good shiraz. Unfortunately, its usually it's a case of him quaffing mine...

Nah, the footy equivalent of the white glove slap across the face.

If it was in a better place it wouldn't be in Romsey. Couldn't be located in a worse place really.

How very generous of you in your praise Ernie.

IMO won't be a pure mid this year, but he could be in '18 or '19. Just hoping he stays fit, with the thyroid and concussion issues behind him. One thing I am certain of, his middle name should be 'Sublime'.

I was in a private box sipping 30 yo scotch and feasting upon chicken and cucumber sandwiches all afternoon RTG, i call it 'home'.

Given we are referring to the women's game, this could be read in quite a disturbing way... or in BBOs case, the usual way.

Speaking of cash... there are twelve $100 notes in Oz per person and only six $20 notes. Apparently the vast majority of $100 bills are used to support the 'cash economy'. But the $50 note is the choice of hardened criminals. Biffen, on the other hand, peddles in bitcoins to keep the Gat afloat. The moral to the storey is you probably won't be audited by the ATO dieter. http://www.smh.com.au/federal-politics/political-news/future-of-the-100-note-up-for-grabs-as-government-targets-undeclared-cash-payments-20161213-gtakk5.html

Dieter, come with Uncle Bitter, Biffen and I to a H&A game early in the season and we'll scrape together enough loose change to get you in. I can't promise you won't end up intoxicated at 2am in some sleazy, sticky-carpet bar in St Kilda. Your Amex card will almost certainly take a hammering and you'll have some explaining to do re the missus. But at least you'll see the footy!

I do that regularly Pman

VDB out. Watts in. Would like to see Dom and Nev get a game too, if fit. Not sure who's spot they take. Maybe JKH, Johnno or Smith Assuming no injuries from today.