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* that Simpson gave the 4 votes You guys look very silly now, given its been revealed that Ross Lyon gave Gaff the AFLCA 4 votes rather than Simpson. SWYL, I think it's you who should be ashamed and apologise for your unfounded outrage and fake news pedalling. IDee, I think the annual-ish lesson you should have learnt is to avoid the patronising coach quotes and maths explanations that aren't proven. Gloat finished.

Of course Gaff should feel grateful if they forgave him, that's part of offering a sincere apology and (hopefully) recieving forgiveness. Andrew Brayshaw is clearly the victim and no one condones what happened to him, but let's not forget that Gaff is suffering too and extremely remorseful. His presser after the verdict is evidence of this. I would hope in time Gus could forgive Gaff and get on with footy, with or without him in his team. He's a strong character, I think he will, would be saddened if he didn't.

More hyperbole. No one said what Gaff did means nothing or that Gus and his family won't be considered and consulted. But these are professionals who will work together and with time, will get on with footy . I'd be disappointed if Gaff wanted to be a Dee and Gus refused to accept his apology and didnt move on from it.

Check out Mickey's link below my last post above. Andrew Brayshaw's dad even wants Gaff to be forgiven. If Gaff comes to MFC, he will work it out amicably with Gus and his brothers.

Maybe you should have a think.... He will not go or stay at a club based upon a where the Brayshaws play. These guys are professionals. They'll have a coffee or a beer together and work past it. Nate Jones said as much today. Gaff may go to Norf, but it won't be based upon avoiding the Brayshaw brothers.

So he should've got off with the regular folk, but he's not regular folk so should be last off? There's more to getting through an airport than just the gate. As a disabled traveller you would know that. The media crush along the concourse, past the security points, along retail outlets could easily have become a safety issue. I'd say the airport did a risk assessment and concluded it would be better if Gaff did not go through the gate. They may also not want ugly airport images in the press to impact their reputation Anyway, moot point now. We disagree.

Do regular folk have a pack of media following them ready to push and shove??? Poor analogy. If I was a fellow passenger on that flight I'd be grateful that disruption at the gate was avoided.

The 'music' is the tribunal, not the media scrum

Wii golf?

Can't say I see a police escort in those photos. I see Gaff bypassing the media at the gate by getting a lift in a ute, maybe driven by airport staff. Looks more like Gaff's support person standing behind him. But, of course, the media scrum are pizzed off at being snubbed, so any sensational headline is therefore acceptable to them. The Hun online now saying it was a 'security escort', so even they have toned it down. Great comments under that tweet too. Edit. And The Age says Gaff was "taken directly from the tarmac to a waiting car by airport staff to avoid a throng of media in the airport." Hardly a police escort for fear of his life. But that's the media... and lazy people believe it.

She's very appealing

Think he's already made up his mind and agreed to terms either way, od

Loved this comment after Stevo's stupid tweet "BREAKING: Explosives and drug dogs spotted at Melbourne airport waiting for the wanted terrorist and international drug trafficker Andrew Gaff."

Feds always have a presence at Tulla airport. Isn't it their domain? #stevoshitstirrer

And to read this thread from first to last post

Correct, however that assault law covers many moves in the game of Aussie Rules. Obviously punching a player isn't in those rules, but police will be reluctant to get involved IMO, it opens a can of worms. Eg. Was Cameron's elbow chargeable by police? Wasn't consentual. Hard to know where to draw the line. I'd rather the AFL dish out harder suspensions for tummy taps, jumper punches, etc. Despite the howls of the outraged majority, i do believe Gaff wanted to punch Brayshaw's chest and in that split second got it horribly wrong. That's not excusing him, however many body punches get off with a fine and are too accepted by players and the MRP. Gaff made a massive mistake which cost Brayshaw dearly. He'll pay the price which should only be in supended matches, not police charges.

Yes, and they can bank a lot of it each year if they dont

Yes me too. Footy Classified saying he's had a massive offer from Norf. "Mother of all offers", they claimed.

You're probably right, just not happy with all the lynching on the Gaff thread. Let the tribunal do its work. Plus I might do a maths short course ?

I saw that, but coaches do not disclose votes. Unlikely but not proven

No it's not. You're making this vote equation up. Fake maths. Where's your evidence to say Simpson 4/Lyon 0? Happy to apologise if I'm wrong, will you and SWYL apologise if your opinion cannot be substantiated? From the evidence so far, its not Simpson who should be ashamed, it you and SWYL

^ FAKE NEWS ^ No evidence to support these.

No, nothing mentioned in pressers. Any real source for 4/0 AFLCA Gaff voting? I ask because if someone writes something as fact without evidence, posters like @No10 and @Sir Why You Little think it's accurate and create ridiculous outrage when it could, in fact, be fake. Not having a go at you, just trying to establish fact without emotion. You may be right, would be good to find the breakdown. Obviously straight after the game the coaches were emotional. You'd hope coaches would be professional enough to vote without bias and the hyperbole of social media. If they can't, and they gave their votes based upon one incident, well, I'm glad they aren't at MFC. Does anyone have the breakdown of which coach gave what votes? Thanks in advance.

Where did you get that breakdown MSF?

Thanks for putting it into reasonable context Ethan I'm sure we'll see that horrific photo at least another 10 times before they day is over. Though it's far from his mind ATM, I bet Andrew Brayshaw would be over the online analysis and hyperbole as well.