Moonshadow

Thanks Doctor Jim.

For sure Jones is tradable, if managed well (though far from a certainty at MFC) Would I like to see him stay and get to 300 games and be a one club player? The romantic in me says yes. But romance won't get us closer to a flag. He won't play in a flag at MFC. Do you think Jones would want to stay because of loyalty or because he thinks he's weekly best 22? In 2020 he's not. He has a couple of years to add to a club like Gold Coast who struggle to keep experienced stars. He'd get one year with us, some of it at Casey. Fresh start at a young club, surf next door. I'd say it's tempting. 3 + Jones to GCS for 2 (Anderson).

Moneyball is screening on 7mate now, for a different perspective...

Me too Mel. It scares me that we have little to hang our hat on in terms of small crumbers, but it would scare me more if we opted for a 33 year old who is going down hill very fast. I'd rather have kept Jeffy for another year, and I didn't want that either!

What if GCS get picks 1 & 2 but must trade 2. Could we offer 3 + Jones for pick 2? We pay most of Jones salary for first year (about $170k). GCS need experienced player with leadership (!) And they get a little cap relief. Jones loves the surf, fresh start for his young family. Not dissimilar to Hodge deal at Bris. And no, I'm not comparing Jones to Hodge, just the trade. We get Anderson (2), use 21 on Langdon and a future 2nd on Amos. We've also ticked off part of the AFL rule about using 1st rounders over 4 year period. I wouldn't be against trading Brayshaw in a deal involving Hill or Cerra. We have enough inside mids. IMO Cerra will be elite in a year or two. Don't think Hill will come to us, though. Jones contract loss might be balanced out by Brayshaw out and Cerra in. Out: 3, 21, 2020 2nd rounder, Jones, Brayshaw. In: Anderson, Langdon, Amos, Hill/Cerra Maybe swap of later picks to even up points value.

Nothing wrong with what you've written, and it's a good case. I take the view that this season and 2018 have seen Betts fall quickly from being an elite small forward to looking slow, going missing for long periods and possibly offered up or even delisted by the crows. Eddie kicked 29 from 18 in 2018 and 37 from 21 this year. Before that it was 55, 75 and 63. Does he offer more than what we currently have? Maybe. But by that logic we should go for a raft of other old players past their prime (eg. Jenkins) because they've done more in 2019 than what we have now. Jetta May be an option. Others have suggested Viney, as we have many inside mids. I don't rate Viney's field kicking, but believe him to be handy around goals. Lockard looks lively. Not sure about Bedford. I just think Betts has at the very best one year left. He'd want a contract for 2, meaning that he'd be on a list at age 35!!! If no other relevant trades came up (Butler, Elliot) I'd rather put games into Lockard and Viney as small forwards If Betts took 1 year contract for $150k with incentives for 20 games or 40 goals, maybe. Can't see that happening.

Or maybe pick 2 or 3, Red

Started a bit later than most. He was drafted at 22 years old, I believe. Think he may have another 1 maybe 2 decent years left. I'd be for it at the right price. Think Clarko would want more than we should offer.

It absolutely does in this case. I think his career is likely done, or should be. I'll agree to disagree

GWS will need points for Toby Green's bro.

Me too. I've mentioned a couple of times that Oliver and Gawn are just about the only 'must keeps'. We have lots of contested ball winners, but no one of quality that can run, spread and deliver well. If we lost Gus and got Hill, it would improve us. Doesn't mean one is necessarily better than the other, rather that Hill is what we need more than Gus. I didn't want Isaac Smith a few months ago because of his age. However, I've come around to realising his speed and line breaking would help us no end. Leadership and experience too, which we'll lose with Lewis retiring .

Rather Scott Thompson

About 12 inches

That's a cricket scorecard under your post @Drunkn167! I've enjoyed reading about the journey you and your brother have had at MFC. Felt like weve shared it with you. You have opened up and been very generous with your time and energy. Much appreciated. All the best.

Damned if he signs, damned if he doesn't. We supporters are a fickle bunch

Thought I read somewhere he also has a wine business???

And we're waiting for you to post something that isn't based upon pot shots at others.

Gotcha. I read your post wrong. Btw, no love for Oliver?

Can kick it well. Im for it if he passes the medical and any other DD, and at the right price.

It would definitely take more than Gus to get Hill and Langdon. IMO pick 20 would probably be included

Sure, I get what you are saying. However, I think we have a number of good players who best play on the inside. I put Gus in that category, as well as Viney, Oliver and Harmes. Next year Trac should get more midfield time. And we have Swallow coming up too. We need outside runners, we have none of any real quality. If we trade Gus + 20 and get Hill and Langdon, I think both parties would be happy. Perhaps some later pick swaps as well to even up trade points value, as I rate Hill above Gus at the moment. Then there's what we might do with pick 2 (or 3). King from GCS? Or Anderson or Hayden Young in the draft. Or split the pick? Interesting dilemma. Don't get me wrong, I'd love to keep Gus in the red and blue. But greater than that, I want a better, more balanced list that can return us back into finals and beyond. Having 5 inside mids and sfa outside players will not do this.

Fess up, which 'Land poster is Josh Elliot? Sounds like a carbon copy of the talk here