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That's fascinating - and new? (Not tge hea map the defensive forward half split) I assume that's on the AFL app.

Yep.

It's interesting that the vibe seems to be Lever had an average game. I thought he was terrific. He had 8 score involvements- only maxy, Billings and tracc had more. He also had 17 disposals and was part of a group effort that shut down lobb, naughton and weightman. He was a key to how well we transitioned from the back half.

You gave me your feedback and advice Moonshadow and i responded to it politely. I heard you. But with all due respect, I'll post what I want to post. I'm loving the win. I could not be more thrilled. And as you well know, having been, like me, a long term poster, whilst I have my faults, failing to be positive is not one of them. There is a certain level of irony in calling me out for being negative given how often over the last ten years I've been accused of being too positive about the club, blind to our faults and too ready to find 'excuses' (read reasons). And besides I wasnt being negative about the club. I was calling out the posters who make this forum difficult to engage with after a loss. And go missing after a win. And I did so in a pretty balanced manner I thought. I have some advice for you. Next time we lose, which of course will happen, jump on demonland and call out the usual suspects who pop up to wack the coach, team etc and think it's just grand to run the club into the ground. Perhaps give them some advice to rein their negativity in and be more positive.

I care Hemingway, but I take your point.

And he's got something you can't coach or develop - raw speed.

Give me a spell. I didn't name names. And I wasnt rude and I didn't take any pot shots. Unless you call the truth a pot shot. And frankly I'm heartily sick of posters spewing vitriol against my club after a loss. And then going silent after an impressive win. If you are gonna call out the club - repeatedly- after a loss then show some spine and put your hand up you might have got it wrong. It's the opposite of fair weather supporters.

Keen to hear the thoughts of those posters who practically wrote our season off and blasted the coach and players after our loss last week. Some remarkably definitive comments were made, given we were beaten on the home deck of a pretty good team that the bookies had as slight fav. You know who you are.

Indeed. Tracc was far and away the best player IMO. 13 score involvements is nuts.

That's exactly the same message w I get too. And like a good automaton, I keep trying again later.

You know you can't drive to tassie I assume?

Yes. I ticked thst box, and had one last year. But despite auto renewing have not received anything from the club- no card, no letter confirming payment, no email. Nada. Zip. Of course I should have chadef it up before now - but I shouldn't have to. Particularly for the coin involved

Thank Luci. That's not the message i get. Mine says something something unexpected error. Try again later. By office, do you mean the window they open on game da near gate 3? If so, that was my plan. But my suspicion is there will be many people needing assistance. But perhaps 2 hours early is bit much! An issue is i have a reserved seat, which i'm hoping to be able to access. A GA pass will get me in, but not provide evidence of my seat.

I'm going to go 2 hours early and try and sort it as it would do my head in being stuck in a line waiting whilst he game is on

Have done this 10 times so far. No joy. It accepts my password etc. but then goes to screen saying unexpected error try again later.

Working on some things.....

@Brownie That's the thing, i don't think they sucked us into those handballs, i think those handballs were evidence of the tweak to our method, a method that now looks a lot like that of the Swans and tigers. You are right, fast movement is the key. And as Engorged Onion notes, so is getting territory at all costs. The pies used that philosophy to overcome the all team defence and zones we perfected and other teams have implemented. The only way to create space in your forward line is to go fast, so it is a method that makes sense (and why, as a generalization switching often doesn't). I reckon in part this handball based method is a reaction to the Pies method, which relies on there not being too much pressure on the kicker the ball is ultimately fed out too (usually Crisp, Pendlebury, SB or one of the daicos brothers). What what was fascinating about the Swans Pies game, in addition to to the handballs, the Pies sweated on that out side player and gave them no peace. But the Swans also often allowed the ball to be fed backwards, so daicos got ,many of his possessions in defensive, non threatening positions. Which is why despite getting so many possessions he was pretty ineffectual i thought.

Fair enough EO. You're right, the way the swans (and dees and tigers) are playing is clearly a strategic and planned method - and as you suggest a fundamental element of her method is taking territory at all cost, though more by hand than foot. An you're also right, it is really a twist on the approach tigers perfected in their flag years. Its worth noting though that Goody was experimenting in the 2023 preseason and first few games with really long handballs forward. A better way of describing is perhaps that it looks somewhat chaotic. It's an interesting model becuase it is impossible to implement without hundreds hours of all team practice over the preseason, drilling it in, honing the handball skills (for example the increasingly used over the head and bounce handballs) and practicing positioning and structures. On the latter point, how often did the Swans handball blind but still find teammate? That sort of synergy can't be magicked up, so if clubs didn't put in the time in the preseason its going to be all but impossible to implment in season. From all the training reports, my observation at the two training sessions i've been too, and our three games it looks like we have done the work. The other interesitng thing is it is a model that might be exposed come finals becuase each handball creates a trurnover opposrtubity. But as i've noted i think there are now two seasons and two methods - home and and away and finals. Come finals the game devolves into the sort of brutal rugby scrap we saw last year (whilst still retaining elements of the home and away season method)

At Casey fields

@Brownie I wrote this in response to a post about how the Swans played: 'The handball, tap on get it forward at cost method was really noticeable wasn't it. It's actually what we are trying to do, so I'd disagree we're playing safe, at least in the three games we've played thus far. The tigers have played a similar model too in their four games ie lots of chaotic handballing and knock on with a focus on forward movement and swarming. Perhaps it's this years version of the Pies 2022 and 2023 fast translation from half back method with the same wave running and handballs, but with less kicking (ie Pies used aggressive, quality kicking to cut through zones - whilst still using hand to link up). What was impressive about the Swans tonight was they also kicked super well. That said, they had a lot of kicks under no pressure. Pies were gassed.' Short version - the tigers method under yze looks very similar to ours this seasons. Its interesting the way the tigers are playing also looks very similar to how they played under Mcqualter. And Mcqualter is now of course our midfield coach, and apparently responsible for transition. Mini is the common link.

Driving me nuts. What a stupid system linking the Ticketmaster and membership systems. I have deleted my app multiple times. Still cant access my mobile membership tickets. Or any of my profile and accounts deets etc. Cant log in at all - not because my password etc is wrong, it just keeps saying try again later. if they are gong to align the Ticketmaster and membership systems, you'd think i could find my tickets on Ticketmaster. Nup I auto renewed my membership last October. But i never received my mail with my card as requested when i first took out the membership. Couldn't get onto the club. No response to my online enquiry. Not receiving any emails from club (they have the correct club). 'A new way to sign in' the graphic proudly boasts. Right, because it's all about making things easier for the customer! Grrr.

Goes a long way to explain wht we are currently 1.60 favourites (in from 1.65 AFTER the final teams were announced).

Huh?

The handball, tap on get it forward at cost method was really noticeable wasn't it. It's actually what we are trying to do, so I'd disagree we're playing safe, at least in the three games we've played thus far. The tigers have played a similar model too in their four games ie lots of chaotic handballing and knock on with a focus on forward movement and swarming. Perhaps it's this years version of the Pies 2022 and 2023 fast translation from half back method with the same wave running and handballs, but with less kicking (ie Pies used aggressive, quality kicking to cut through zones - whilst still using hand to link up). What was impressive about the Swans tonight was they also kicked super well. That said, they had a lot of kicks under no pressure. Pies were gassed.