binman

Actually not that many to he honest. I tend just to skip posts by posters who grind my gears or burn my bacon. I just checked. 28 in total. But I've posting on demonland for a long time. Mainly 'characters' that are long gone (mostly banned) - eg lord nev, tonatopia (the first poster i ignored), curry and beer, matsuo basho, dee-luded (not to be confused with deeeluded, stuie (lord nev's intense first incarnation), osilik and uncle fester. And a small handful of current posters.

Go to setting and there is an ignore users option. Used and recommended by binman.

I doubt it. But if true, good on him.

Adam the Jesus?

The data is anecdotal? So, to clarify when you say 'statistically very few ruckmen are any good after 33' you actually mean your vibes are that there aren't many examples of rucks playing good footy at 35. Glad we cleared that up. Interestingly you list some terrific examples of rucks playing good footy in their mid 30s. Ta. No reason then maxy couldn't follow in their footsteps. By the by, why should I list other examples? You are the one making the argument nor me.

This is such an important point. One of the (many) things that really frustrates me about how footy is covered by the media is the thread of blatant hyprocicy that runs through it. Take the way clarry's situation has been covered Media people love to bang on how great footy clubs are in terms of 'wrapping their arms around' players who are experiencing personal issues. But then all season they get stuck into clarry and the club because it's great for clicks. And give the club very little, if any, kudos for how they have wrapped their arms around claz and support him through what is probably the most difficult period of his young life. And, similarly don't give claz kudos for his commitment and the work he is doing. It's particularly galling when it's ex players who are being hypocritical given every one of them would understand how challenging the whole thing us. Even more galling is the completely disingenuous coverage about all things players struggling with mental health issues. Actually, disingenuous is being kind. The media is a huge part of the problem and rarely a meaningful part of the solution.

This post smacks of a desperate troll trying to earn some some troll clout. Don't get me wrong, you gets points for trying. But between you and me, you really need to work on your craft. I mean, fuchsias forever? C'mon, surely you can do better than that. And a Sam Weideman reference? So 2019! Read some of Cranky Franky"s work for some inspiration. I have faith in you ff - if you work hard in the off season you just might make the senior.

Cranky, can you please show me the data on your last paragraph. It's not that i think that you just made that 'statistic' up, I'm just thinking i might want to to trot that fact out at some stage and I want to have the stats to back it is. Love your work by the way.

Can we talk about maxy's goal kicking please. We can start with how maxy is one of the most accurate players for shots from outside 50 in the history of the game. Deeluded? Rings a bell. Any relation?

Some of your best work there DS - maybe your best. Question- have you and Cranky Franky ever been in the same room together?

Not for the first time, the club's comms was completely hopeless, just as it was last year with the clarry circus and the Grundy situation. I totally understand why he was furious. Pert had done a lot right, but our. comms is appalling and at the end if the day, that's on him.

So, the pies win a flag - and fail to make the finals the following year. Culture issues?

No way they select hunter. At least i hope not - i would be livid if they did. He doesn't deserve any favours. All the talk about clarry this season has helped hunter escape scrutiny. He was good in the first half of the 2023 season, but has been a joke since - particularly this year. This season we lost 2 senior players for the season before a ball was bounced (gus, smith), had other senior that basically alao missed the whole season through injury (spargo, bbb and mcadam) and had yet another unavailable for two thirds of the season (melk). And to that list we can add Hunter. So, from a list of 44 players, we were down seven senior players, forcing us to play kids. And in addition, multiple senior players missed blocks of games (May, tracc, maxy, salo, bowey, lever). I understand Hunter battled injury, but to he blunt I question his commitment to his rehabilitation - not to mention the club. We desperately needed hardened, senior players on deck and he looked a million miles from a dedicated, elite footballer desperate to get back into the ones. And forget leadership - he's offered us nothing. Hunter is the anti nibbla and I expect we've seen the last of him, both at the dees and as an AFL footballer.

He'll get six minimum. Deserves eight.

They won't know that next Friday night. We can eliminate them.

We want the pies to win do we not? So we can break their hearts next week.

Indeed. Scoring from centre clearances is the key stat, not how many centre clearances you win. They set up very aggressively today, and as dwayne noted Viney looked to get forward of the contest at every opportunity. When that doesn't work it is called cheating, when it works its called confidence.

Go redleggers!

Yes, but only in the sense that we lost losing one of best four mids in gus before a ball was bounced, lost another best four mid (and arguably the best mid in the AFL - and def top 5) in tracc and had viney, who rounds out our best 4 mids, clearly struggling with his shoulder for big chunks of the season. So, two of our best four mids not available and the other two carrying injuries. In terms of our midfield strength, I had expected sparrow to go up a level, but he appears to have plataued. I think kolt will go into the middle sooner rather than later as he looks a natural inside mid. And I haven't given up on laurie. We need to replace gus, but otherwise, IMO, we have other drafting and trading priorities, namely elite kicks who can run and carry (eg players we have been linked with like cummings and houston) and a legitimate forward ruck to give maxy a chop out.

I agree Gator. I think the evidence this season is he has been been fully committed. Tried his guts out every week. But he was never going to get anwhere near his optimal condition given his off season. Get his surgery done and he can attack the preseason. I'm working on the assumption that if the club doesn't trade him the club believes that is what will happen. But we have a big chunk of our salary cap tied up in clarry, which apart from getting value from that investment, it makes it more difficult to bring in a gun on a big contract (it doesn't seem to have impacted our ability to resign a bunch of key players). So, he needs to get back to his best next season.

For god's sake who would you have selected ahead of clarry to play on ball? Laurie? He had his shot at cementing his spot as a mid. And couldn't take it Clarry was dropped this week and Laurie is still in the magoos. Who else would you have picked from casey to play as a mid? Sestan? Woey? AMW? People are banging on like clarry didn't earn his spot in the side, that he wasn't in our brst side, or that we were carrying him or some such. To be blunt, it is an argument that objectively simply does not hold up to any scrutiny. He is our 7th highest rated player for the seasom. That is fact not supposition. As I noted that puts him ahead of 36 of his teamates, including of course Laurie, amw and woey.

Yep. Which was really my point. Objectively, clarry has had a pretty good season. Of course, a long way from his best, but even so, based the player ratings, better than 37 of his teamates.

Behind five midfielders? Do you mean behind five players who have played ANY midfield minutes? I mean, c'mon, max is a ruck not a mid and kozzie and nibbla are not mids either. And whilst Rivers played as a mid at times, 70% of his season has been as a defender, so very difficult to compare to clarry who played as a mid 99% of the time. Even if you do include Rivers as a mid, he is only just ahead of clarry on the ratings. So basically clarry has had as good a season as rivers. And I don't think I've read a single post all season knocking Rivers. In fact Rivers' rating highlights my point about the demonland poll (which was really just an aside) - despite having almost the same player ratings this season, the demonland poll has Rivers our 4th best player, and Clarry 9th.

How did you arrive at our sixth best rated mid on Wheelo's ratings? @WheeloRatings's app is terrific. One reason why is the way you can sort the data As i have noted previously, the Champion data player rating is the best measure of players as it measures the impact of every involvement a player has in a game and as is the most obbjective measure. I'm not counting Max as a mid, nor Rivers, who didn't play enough games as a mid to be fairly compared - but even if I did include him clarry still shaded him imo. And didn't include tracc because he only paid 13 games. If I did, obviously he's our best mid this season. I'll acknowledge unquestionably our best mid is a stretch, but i maintain he was our best mid over the whole season. IMO he just shaded jack viney who dropped away alarmingly in the second half of the season (and thanks to clarry escaped much scrutiny). This is the player ratings for the last 20 games they've played, which is why Gus is listed. Clarry and Jack have both played 21 games this season, and it's worth noting clarry played a defensive mid role for much of the season (relevant for his disposal numbers). Jack just shaded clarry for player ratings and clearances, but clarry bested jack for disposals, centre clearances and contested possessions - all important kpis for mids. Leaving aside the discussion on midfield, the table makes for interesting reading. Leaving gus and tracc aside, clarry is our sixth highest rated player in his last 20 games. Meaning he is ahead of fan favorites like may, Lever, mcvee, langers and Windsor. Hence my comment that I'd bet dollars to donuts he'll be top 10 in the bluey. If you are a regular demonland reader you'd think a top 10 in the bluey would be impossible given the assessment by most posters of his form this season.