binman

One hopes your mangled use of metaphor is sophisticated satire, making a comment on the woeful standard of football journalism. But i fear that may not be the case....

Was thinking exactly the same thing when I read song's post. As you say the new fake news, which was the new pc gone mad (or its cousin the pc loud minority)

Wasn't worthy of a new thread, but credit where credit is due. This thread seemed as good a place as any to post this given it is about PR. I have been a big critic of our website (and comms in general). They have done a bit of an overhaul and done one of things i said was an easy fix - put up clips of radio interviews. The landing page has 6 interviews from radio and one TV interview (in addition to their own content). Good stuff and this simple addition gives me reason to visit the site as you have hunt around for these clips and it is a pain.

Two different discussions Macca. Whatever you think of the rule for rehabbing players not to drink (or what Dr they adhere to it) the fact remains he broke team rules. The latter is the issue at hand

Sorry macca not sure what you mean here. Maxy was pretty clear on Sen that team rules are that ok as gets rehabbing don't drink. Agree its not a hanging offence but he def broke team rules, hence his apology to the team Sounds as if there were mitigating circumstances, hence no punishment. Maturely handled by the club.

I don't really have an issue with Tom Morris per se. Just doing the job he is paid to do. What I dislike is that really he is little more than a gossip columist. He's not a writer. Yet he is paid to write. He is a journalist, but only the sense that he is in the media. Like Sam McClure and that other gossip monger Tom Browne. All so called 'news breakers. So funny. No analysis, no intelligence, no balance, no nuance and barely any more real research than trawling social media and fan sites such as this one. And so often reliant on club sources that quite frankly I don't believe exist most of the time. Look at Morris' article posted a few minutes ago about Shaun Smith's comments about his son. A classic of the genre. Gossip pure and simple. Is it 'news worthy. Not in my book. It is 'click bait worthy', which like it or not is the now the key metric in media. Good journalism is terminal. But I don't blame the Toms or the Same of this world, pretty little gold fish swimming as they do in the little AFL fish bowl, they are simply meeting a demand. Meeting the need for ever more content for all the TV shows, online sites, radio etc etc. Click. Click. Click

Probably helps if you want to have an informed opinion on it though.

That article does a nice job of rubbing some salt into our recruiting wounds with the last two paragraphs: 'Melbourne gave up pick No.6 in last year's NAB AFL Draft to secure May and former Sun Kade Kolodjashnij, who has managed two matches in his first season at the Demons. Kolodjashnij has been sidelined indefinitely with concussion.'

The Steven May Pint would be more accurate.

Was going to post something similar. Maxy said though the first step will be to have a chat and get some context and sense of any mitigating circumstances (my words)

Settle down A parasite? Sheesh.

Letting the ball go over the line is being kind. That was right below me. He had time and more than enough space to collect the ball and take on the tackler. If he had done so and beaten the tackler he had the option of a handball to Oliver or a kick down the line. A throw in gave us nothing. But he didn't want to get tackled. And Oliver called him on it. Late in last weeks game against the tigers he pulled up from a contest. He seems to be picking his contests, which leaders don't do.

Not sure I agree. Melk could have made thar distance. He did off one step on his left in the semi (albeit not over a bloke on the mark). As others have said he pulled the wrong rein with his pulled kick. Had to either go for a goal, which may well not have got there but could have been punched through, either by us or them. Or to the forward pocket for a point or boundary line throw in. A stoppage gives us a chance to lock it and even score. A point ensures we can't lose the match and allows us time to flood back far enough to force the short kick to the pocket and then into their back 50 if required (as happened). The worst result was kicking it straight to their ruck man.

Snap. Just saw the giph and thought exactly the same thing. The forwards didn't mark it but were able to bring it ground, which is a harder task when bombed high and/or to the defender's advantage

Good post with a number of good points. On where he is at I'd add to the point about his young age for a kpd, he like his brother and others had post season surgery and an interrupted pre season. As you say when not playing well ite seems to be a beacon for crtisism. But even when playing well some, including commentators, only seem to note his mistakes. I agree with the crtisisms of him not moving towards the ball twice in rhe last quarter and being outmarked as a result. But to suggest he nearly cost us the game is ridiculous. What nearly cost us that game - one we should have won by 5 goals - was our appalling handball and kicking skills all game. But particularly in rhe first half. Hore, Fritter, Lewis , gawn and Oliver made multiple howlers that cost both goals and chances at goal. It was a joke. Capped off by traccs shot on goal Jeffy for all his improved work cost us a sure goal with his selfishness (though it was great that he made up for that later) and don't get me started about harmed and his two identical 50s. Omac did not miss a target by hand or foot. 100% de in a team that at half time was going at a woeful 52%. And before anyone says that his kicks were all easy crosses remember several were high risk 40 metre arrows that picked out teammates and set up forward attacks (besides half our team can't make those easy 30 metre crosses). Another positive is that he took a couple of good contested marks (the second one at an important time), something he rightly has been knocked for for not doing. So all in all an improved game from omac. But i'm sure, with petty among our best in the vfl that if goody thinks omac is the liability some think he is then he will drop him. We'll see Thursday night.

They are having an off year for precisely the same reason we are: injuries and interrupted pre seasons. 4-5 of their best 22 out (and 3 of their best four) on sat night and dusty clearly not fully fit or carrying an injury. Any team would struggle wirh that scenario (and we are even worse off with 7-8 of our best out and multiple players not fit) Compare to the pies and cats. Hardly any key injuries and flying.

Well I for one was confident before the win (and am on record as such)

If we win 10 more games our percentage will be fine. And besides the comp is so even in that midddle group that 11 wins might be enough. I still think many simply don't get that the issue isn't game plan, drinking bathwater, pert, issues between the coach and Macca, goody ability ad coach etc etc. The key issue is our lack of fitness and way too many players out. Simple Fix that and winning 10 of 15 games is more than possible.

It's all about building fitness across the board and getting key players back. Exhibit A is hibbo. Clearly looked fitter and had better movement than previous games. And had a much improved game as a result. Exhibit B. Tmac. Still clearly hampered. But getting there. Three more weeks and I suspect he'll be over what ever the issue is (toe) and fitness will be where it should be at. I reckon 12 games will be enough to make the 8 this year. Which means we need to win 10 of 15. If we can get to 12 games and have six wins we will need 6 from our last 10. Doable as by then we shoild have may, lever, jetts, viney and hannan back in the team. Season is far from.over and talk of putting the cue in the rack and focusing on 2020 is poppy [censored]

Huh? HE WAS MAKING A JOKE.

No. Forward for sure. I think you're a bit rattled dl. Don't stress. We'll win. 23 points

Dazzler's confidence you would work it out was misplaced. He was making a joke about it being a pity preuss wasn't in to run through Scully. Sheesh.

Agree rusty. Hopefully goody has them in a good headspace and they play with a little more freedom and a bit more relaxed. They seem to have been afraid of taking risks and trying too hard if that makes sense. Tight. Also they're almost as slow us so won't hurt us in the spread like the bombers, saints and tigers did.

I second that. In some ways Dec land feels like an honorary Demonland poster and part of the somewhat dysfunctional Demonland family. Kudos to you too Drunkn. I really admire how you've gone about posting about your brother's journey. Always even handed and sanguine about the occasional barb he has received from some posters. I feel for Smith, like his namesake, he can't take a trick with injury. But I actually think Kielty's height and reach makes him a better fit for us. I also suspect he, like another poster has suggested, will take the step up to AFL in his stride and I reckon the level will suit him. Huge opportunity to cement a spot.

One more reason to go to the game