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I would have liked a fith goal - show MFC fans respect by communicating properly (eg about injuries and important events like AGMs)

What was the response?

Which leaves me out of the picture.....

Yes. Or at the least certainly not encouraged. I mean they post a notice on the MFC site 6 December and that's it? You have to be kidding.What sort of message does that send? If asked why they will no doubt talk about the members forum. But i didn't go t that as i wanted to go to the AGM and ask the board via the chairperson and CEO a question related to off filed performance not on filed stuff which i knew would be the focus of the members forum. Sure i could have checked when it was but i had fully expected it would be promoted (and then flagged on here). It has in previous years. I am not happy and will write to the club to express my frustration.

What? I had no idea it was on tonight. I was thinking just today it must be soon. Where was the communication? No email. Nothing that I saw on the MFC site. I had planned to go. Ironically was going to ask about their poor communication and what strategies they had to improve it.

HB was like a lamb to the slaughter. Stupid joke the fellas name is something (Tim?) Lamb

Credit where credit is due. Both episodes have been terrific, though i enjoyed the second more as it provided more insight into their training and rehab. On the latter, like others it is incredible to see the detail and work in the rehab that VDB has done. Gives a real sense of how hard it must have been for him to sit ourt all of last season after being hopeful that he would be playing. Clever to have an episode every Sunday right up to the season opener. Good for fans but also sponsors as it is getting great media coverage (and apart from Cornes all positive). In addition to the standard interviews and jumper presentations from the women's team there has also been a couple of terrific behind the scenes stuff such as one with go pro from Maddi Gay leading them off As i say credit where it is due. This is exactly the sort of stuff fans and potential fans engage with. I'll be interested in finding out how many times the Hell and Back videos are watched.

I think we should debate this more

Yeah right on, such a high horse. Some peanut makes yet another blatantly sexist, offensive boneheaded remark and my response is to let him know he is on my ignore list by providing a link to a great song by a great all female hard rock trio. Yeah so self righteous. So over the top. Sorry. Wait, no it wasn't. Now that i think about it you are cut from the same cloth as your brethren JakovichScissorKick. Life's too short to engage with triggered men babies who fervently wish it was still 1961, a time when women knew their place. Which certainly, most positively WAS NOT THE FOOTBALL FIELD! So you have also made my,..... https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=https://m.youtube.com/watch%3Fv%3DAkmLpTXbNDQ&ved=2ahUKEwjX4cSW7NTnAhUgyDgGHdG5AHUQjjgwCnoECAIQAQ&usg=AOvVaw1peaWZYJqsjw9PA11X3oU5 PS - at least my link made sense. I mean, can i give you a....... ....small boy riding a horse?

I was sure it was only three episodes. I was thinking they are only at week one of training - they will have to cram a lot in 1 more episode!

I thought exactly the same thing

You've made my https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=https://m.youtube.com/watch%3Fv%3DAkmLpTXbNDQ&ved=2ahUKEwjX4cSW7NTnAhUgyDgGHdG5AHUQjjgwCnoECAIQAQ&usg=AOvVaw1peaWZYJqsjw9PA11X3oU5

True 'nuff. I watched the Matildas play China last night. Fantastic stuff. I enjoy watching them more than the soccer roos. I know they are all the best players in the country so but almost all are playing in the oz WSL, a league tbat must lose money. But like the AFLW is a smart investement.

Interesting article in the context of the discussion about the next wave of talent coming into AFLW: https://mobile.abc.net.au/news/2020-02-14/the-maddy-prespakis-era-has-arrived-good-news-for-aflw/11964922

With some justification. Particularly if they say 4-6 weeks and will be right to go round 1.

Involving two brothers?

Bottom 5 as in 13-18? Surely you jest. If not why is not making the finals a fail?

Spot on hot rod. As Ras D Nesbit rightly pointed out football the AFL is limited to an Australian market., unlike say basketball and soccer - footy's two biggest natural competitors for both viewers and participants. So broadcast rights have a natural cap. Supporting and driving women's football makes sound business sense in terms of ensuring half of the Australian population are encouraged to watch and AFL games. the AFL can get overseas viewers. So it can't afford to lose potential viewers here. if it does attendance will drop (and of course the revenue), club membership will drop (ditto) and broadcast rights will be less valuable. Discussion about pay rates and what might be regarded as elite are furphys. This is an investment. Not charity or some feel good exercise in promoting quality. A shrewd investment in my opinion. Soccer is decades ahead in this space. But look where they are now. The Matlidas are arguably Australia's most loved national team. And are great to watch. Snap TPF39

On one level i agree with the bolded bit. It was always a risk creating new teams and thinning the talent pool and there was a strong argument for leaving it as it was for at least another year. I also agree the talent pool is stretched too thin in the AFL and it has impacted the game (just look at the number of players coming up from state leagues and lower levels something that rarely used to happen) But a big difference between the two comps is that unlike the men's game participation is growing exponentially in women's football, at both the senior level but more crucially the junior level. As Terry Wallace points out the standard will take a huge jump when girls who started playing at say under 12s start entering the AFLW in numbers. That process has commenced and will accelerate quickly in the next few seasons. Which will mean more natural footballers with all the skills like Daisy and less elite level athletes coming across from other sports that haven't grown up playing footy. So the extra teams is in some ways a calculated gamble. More teams, more reach to female fans of those teams driving increased participation and a bigger talent pool. Just look at how many saints fan turned up to watch them. I'll bet 3/4 were parents and their daughters. The other factor about more AFLW teams is that there are more players training at an elite level. And these players go back to the VFLW as fitter an d better players. More teams also increases the opportunity and pathways for young guns and those who aspire to play AFLW.

A deliberately misleading headline designed to drive clicks, create faux outrage and trigger men babies. As you suggest people making comment who obviously haven't read the article (spolier alert the AFLPA have raise the vague idea of a joint CBA, the AFL nothing to do with it, the next tv rights likely to be less so less revenue to share with players). We are collectively getting dumber.

From blah, blah and back?

Good point Damo. They complement each other well. Max is terrific off field and with his communication. There is no way Viney won't be captain - it would a demotion and and would only create unhelpful strange ju ju and fugazi around the club when the narrative we are pushing is redemption. I have no doubt Max and Jack will be announced as co captains.

Spargo was in full training today apparently

Of that list though only preuss is confirmed being out for any length of time and all of them have got a very strong fitness base down. So not that a big an issue really.

You have to laugh at how the media operates these days. Particularly the footy media. Create a story where these isn't one, in this case based on a vague answer to a question (THE AFLM is coming !!!!!). Media comments on that non story. People (all the better if it is someone half famous - or else just quote twitter) then comment on those comments. Rinse and repeat. Here's an example. https://www.news.com.au/sport/afl/embarrassing-and-unprofessional-jeff-kennett-launches-strong-criticism-of-afl-after-aflm-clarification/news-story/3ffd880bb08c39ed1b7b8d6957bf560d Slobbo has also commentated on the AFLM mania in the same rag. Fair dinkum the world is getting dumber. Interestingly ABC news had a completely different spin on the story, which was how long it took Nicole Livingston to answer the question not a critique of Hocking or god forbid any serious consideration of i becoming AFLM. In fact the article makes it clear it is not going to happen. https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-02-11/afl-has-no-plans-to-rename-the-league-aflm/11954612?section=sport By the by for context here is the actual question and response: