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Good luck to them. I'd let Gary Lyon walk straight into our coaching job if he was interested.

Every success adds a bit of confidence. The FD believes in him. Many supporters are beginning to believe. He just needs to grow in his own self belief. Every goal counts, every pass counts, every mark counts, every smart play counts. A good sprint in front of the billion????? counts. Every win in front of your opponent counts. I am going for the win.

Big guys keep developing generally more slowly. Keep an eye on him and others overlooked before

At some point the Demons are going to have to honour Jim in a unique way. In making my suggestion I do not want to dishonour the Barassi family in any way and I will take it on the chin if I appear as disrepectful. I propose the Club Best and Fairest be renamed the Stynes/Barassi. First port of call would be the Barassi household to assess their response. Any better suggestions

E 25 spot on Slow mind, rarely creates play further down the field. Good players rarely stop. They are looking for 2 or 3 moves to follow the one they make. They know if something closes, 2 others open up and so the play powers forward. Davey's our best exponent of this. Bartram mostly stops props and looks for easiest option. His leg speed is good, plays close well, but mind is slow and robs him of the creative aspect your backline needs to rise into the top four. Hand and foot skills are below average. Some seem to like him, so be it we have different opinions. I'm looking for more.

now we know your source I share a fun story with you. But let me tell you, Ric is a great man, as friendly as they come, but has the decency not to probe Cameron nor out of respect for his friendship I do not probe him. Over ten years I have learnt very little from Ric about the club. We talk of what we each observe. Maybe not everybody respects their relationships as we do.

Yes I've been through this one to. Brought my two daughters up in Mentone where Ric Bruce (father of Cam) was principal. He was a saints supporter then. He did everything to win my daughters over. Bringing saints players to the school did it. I lost one, until a friend took her to a Melbourne training day. She pointed out the wonderful muscles on David Neitz and a few others. As a 13 year old she was hooked and now in their late 20's we have great football memories we often share. The great day came when Cam was drafted. A phone call to Ric to express my delight immediately followed, with the words, 'that will teach you to mess with my daughters. My god is good, my god is great, you may have tried to take my daughter, but I end up with your son.' Ric and Judy are two of our best supporters. I suggest take them to a club occassion with camera in hand and ask the other girls which demon they want a photo with. The fourth one will kickly fall into line. I have photo's of my daughters each with, David Neitz, David Swartz, Adam Yze, Todd Viney on our mantlepiece. The girls love them, but not as much as I do.

Cam is one of the most creative players we have at the club, has been for a long time. Yes he's made some mistakes but that is usually the bad handball when he is trying to create something when we are really under pressure. He is one of our best play makers. I know that the bombers made a major play for him in Sheedy's reign when the bombers were flying. They believed he was the play maker they needed to feed, Lloyd and Lucas along side Hird. The entire bomber team supported the idea. Sheedy would probably have used him differently than we have come to know. Great playmaker, but as Johnson andHird knew only to well his defensive skills were close to best in the league. Great pressure without giving away the free. Sensational at deballing the opposition and starting a counter attack. So his kicking was not his prime asset. How easy to forget the many goals he did kick. I am staggered that people have criticised his kicking when we have a swag of poor kicks. Leading the way is James MCD. Nobody ever mentions this about him but his passing was hardly 50/50. Miller was abysmal as we all know. People drool over Bartram but ignore his very slow mind and very modest kicking. I won't bore you any more by players that can't kick.

Club Official said it was general soreness

Rpfc Non of the above just a chance meeting. It's worth airing, or do you want warmfuzzies all the time as we convince one another we a going to win a flag in two years. My comments were the edited version. If you keep your ears open you hear lots of real stuff, and some would concern you even more. But if you like I'll keep it soft and cuddly for the faint hearted in the future.

Miller in ! drop Bailey!

If Jurrah kicked those three relative shots on goal, game over far earlier in the third quarter and probably a 50 point win. Not bad when we played so badly in the first half

Three players have suffered over the past few years after showing great potential. Dunne, Martin and Morton. Each showed potential in their general area then the club decided to throw them around. Fortunately Dunne has returned to form having been put back up forward. Acknowledging injury has not helped Martin his experimentation has robbed him of much. Morton is my big question. He is an elitely skilled player. Plugged holes all over the ground. And he has disappeared from the scene. He is too valuable to be out of the team. His style is necessary for team variety. He is essential to our future. We are top heavy with slow inside players. Today Richmond ran us off our feet. Such players don't improve by going back to the VFL. I happen to know he is becoming dissillusioned because he is not being guided on why he is being dropped. He is disgruntled. I want him backk in now.

If we lose to the Hawks, maybe against Port Adelade over there

We were slow against the tigers today. Harsh as some see it but James MCD does little for the team now. Jones is better than McKenzie at this time as he has some outside to his game. McKenzie has little in this area. Jurrah and Watts need to grow in confidence therefore will continue. With Green and Dunne doing so well up forward, its wasting space playing Miller. (Bate, Morton Warnock Maric must come in before Miller) It's been a long year PJ has to stay. One ruck asks too much of the one remaining ruck. If by chance we did get to the finals, Jamar would be pooped. We need two rucks. The club is ruining Morton. They have got to find a spot for him as he is too good to mess around. Unhappy players go else where and Bailey has shown he doen't cope well with unhappy players. (EG C Johnson, S Buckley) He prefers to get rid of them. Morton is not the only young player unhappy with their treatment by the coaching staff. ( inside information)

Who will be fooled. Bailey, who regards the boy from Mt Gravat as his love child or bluey of the suns who is desperate for experience.

Coaching staff are as much at sea about a number of players positions as the players are becoming themselves.

Daveytrain1.. I suggest you read Brad Green's article in thursday Age. Speaking of Geelong's speed of ball movement. Requires quick minds. Bartram can run,but has a poor mind. Miller was another one who got the ball and waited, never quite knew what to do with it. Bartram kicks 50% of his possessions backwards because he neither has the skills or quickness of mind. Hard at it and can tackle well. But that is about it. Bail is showing he has it all.Exciting prospect.

Danger Danger Danger. Look at centre line (not that they necessarily play there) Moloney, McDonald, McKenzie, plus Jones. How slow can you go. Tigers will kill us for speed. As it is often said the midfield is the new goal to goal line. The goal to goal line needs reasonable height, but the midfield needs speed, will Trengove,Scully, Bruce add enough. Flash will be working overtime. IMO Morton is a must to counter balance a body heavy midfield.

From tanking it to banking it. Congratulations all demons, rich or poor and thanks to those who dug really deeply. Another goal achieved, 20 more on Sunday. Go Demons

He's had a couple of good games for 80. But we are after a premiership. Ultimately you cann't have someone prone to mistakes at that level. Courage is onething, but no more than Cheney. He takes a few marks and people think he's great. If you cann't outmark your opponent on the backline, your not good enough in a premiership team. there are a number of good players in our team that get dropped seemingly unfairly. But we are after constant improvement. At this stage we you have got to consider potential development. Bartram is pushing his limit. He fits into a team that is pushing toward the 8. There will be futher changes over the coming year. Others have got to be tried. Those prone to mistakes will go.

I liked Chip playing more of a CHB position than FB position 'cause it gave him greater opportunity to run forward.

Junior should go on a high rather than painfully during next year. McNamara, Blease, Strauss all 2 years Spencer one year at a time. His skills are so far behind Fitzpatrick and Gawn will overtake him very quickly.

I'm a Bartram doubter (read bagger), but I'm happy to congratulate him on a great game yesterday. Best display of his limited skills. Kicking was generally Ok but it is poor. Yes he is a great runner and we saw his great tackling yesterday. Those who blamed others for Ballantynes goals last week, have obviously overlooked the goals he enabled other players opponents get throughout the year, eg, re look at Lakes goal that put the doggies in front. It was a Bartram fumble. Did you see the ball bounce off his chest 15 metres out in the recent game against the Bombers. Apart from modest skills he suffers from one of Millers problems. His mind is slow and often confused. Those with good and quick minds take a mark and are off looking to create play. Bartram gets it, stops, looks, freezes, cann't trust his skills to pin point a sharp target so under pressure passes back as if to say, 'here you have a go'. It's quiet different than a creative switch. 80 odd games to come up with a really good one doesn't prove much yet. Play like he did this week and I'll be on board, but lets not get carried away in the pleasure of this win. There are a dozen young guns just waiting to bust into this super team. Some are going to go. Only that form can give him a chance of keeping him in.

We all develop a fondness for different players over others. There are a lot of Bennell bashers on this forum, but not me. In my mind he reminds me a lot of the great Stanley Alves, speed, agility, daring, leap, intensity, desire to take on the opposition. A couple of years and he will be an A grader.