old dee

We are truly in the poo for a KPF if we have to go this low rpfc

Sorry no idea!

Simply not up to it deestar

A winning game thread!

That is a recipe for another 15 - 18 belting's this year.

Not sure about that I think a draw is a real possibility. The saints have no midfield and we have no forward line.

Like you I doubt it !

You mean worse than two wins in 2013 and numerous 15+goal beltings and all the games that were over at quarter time? Then add the fact Clark was not playing and we had to grit our teeth knowing we were paying multi thousands of dollars for zero? Yes I guess I would have felt worse if we had not recruited him in the first place.

It is way more important to the AFL that GWS and the Suns prosper than what it is for Dogs, North, Saints and us to prosper WJ

I have a feeling we get more from him for three quarters than the alternatives will give for a full game WJ

D 26 at present you could trade him for a two day old macdonalds Big Mac

The only thing that separates us from the pies is a few $million and they have won two Gf's in the last 50 years and we have won nil.

I was just vacuuming the floor and a thought came to me (yes I know does not happen often ). I will know when the Dees have arrived as a serious player when the games mean more to me than Demonland.

You have my vote!

Why only next week ?Seems to me he is one of a very few options for the next month.

Yes agree People can disagree without belittling the other person.

Bookies win again

I am trying not to read that I have taken off my glasses so I am not exactly sure what you are saying DF. Sorry!

tm he is clearly going to be no use this year. You cannot come back from no training form January till when ever and expect to be any good this year. You have to look at players that miss a month of pre season training they are generally poor all year. Clark will have played 15 games out of a possible 66. IMO it would be wise to look else where. We are stuck with him till the end of 2015 for better or worse. I am not suggesting we throw him in the street but IMO to be banking on him to make some miraculous recovery is fool hardy. I bet the FD is right this minute planning for a replacement. If they are not I would be very disappointed.

Dees by a point Redleg. But that does not alter us as even favourites. God I don't want the only thing worth talking about in 2014 to be the draft. Please can we just win a few and finish 15th or 16th. PLEASE

The money is lost unless I am mistaken. We operate without him this year and acquire a Key position forward without him in calculations for 2015 and beyond. Take care of him but he is no longer in the playing possibilities into the future. Tough and brutal but that is the way of the AFL world.

Please stop supporting a system that is not working. Clearly the majority of supporters would like the truth and not the current Mushroom factory deal. AS I have said If they don't know what is wrong or how long Hogan will be out tell us. I struggle to see what is lost by that and there is considerable to be gained IMO.

Hallelujah to that WJ. I have had it with this BS we are fed on a weekly basis. If Dawes is the first of May tell us if Hogan is we don't know, Tell us. WE have not had a forward line for two years will another month or two make any difference?

He is finished for 2014 beyond that who knows. Time to spend brain time who are our best available forwards. And consider the future recruits needed

Sorry demonox but I do not remember these issues he was basically out for a season than came back with none of the crap effecting Clarke