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I'm guessing comprehension wasn't your strong suite when you studied English Wrecker?

Not really DC... if I don't use it, the old chestnut about such occurrences being cyclical events will be thrown around. Of course, I suppose a comet could come along and tilt the earth on its axis causing a new ice age.

Why do you need a prediction or a report for something you can see with your own eyes? It doesn't validate nor does it invalidate the science. The bleaching is a physical manifestation of a part what the predictions were anticipating (as is the glacial ice deterioration). You tell me that "9/11 happened in front of our eyes" yet you refuse to accept what we see happening before our eyes as a direct result of global warming? These are not just cyclical events... these are causing permanent damage to areas that have existed unchanged for millennia. What makes you think that you know more than the majority of climate scientists and the brains trusts of most countries advising their respective leaders? Do you seriously believe that the fossil fuel industry has no vested interest in seeing the science disproved? I would think they probably stand to lose a lot more than those involved in renewable energy stand to gain.

Yes, we're simply imagining the bleaching of the reef, we're imagining the collapse of glacial ice at a rate never seen before etc etc. Now tell me again, just how could so many world leaders and their advisors be so easily duped?

No idea...it was an interesting comment none the less.

No, we don't have a bet because I, nor you, know what they will do. China stand to benefit in terms of trade by stepping to the breach in the accord. Altruism is dead, but if it benefits all parties, no one will be complaining about that. As an aside, it was interesting that even in Pittsburgh, the community Trump use as the example he was doing this for (leaving the accord), the mayor stated that they would continue to work towards the accord's requirements.

No, you have no idea...just a guess. No different to how you view the predictions of climate change scientists really.

Like you, I have no idea, but I unlike you I'll wait to see before I cast my judgement.

Wrecker, I suggest you and your mates head off to the next summit and set all of those so called experts straight. They obviously are not in your league.

Standing up to radical Islam by proposing a ban on all middle eastern countries barring those who coincidentally he has business interests with? Remind me, where were most of the 9/11 attackers from and which countries are on his proposed immigration ban list? You know for a fact that the Paris Accord is a scam... congratulations, you have managed to see what almost every other leader of every other nation on the planet has been blind to. Frankly, I see very little difference between the likes of you and the conspiracy theorists at the other end of the spectrum that believe the 9/11 attacks never happened. All Trump has managed to do is open the door for China and lock themselves out. Let's see how great America is when no-one want to deal with them.

Corrected

Easy to mislead with a simple sentence. Try this: A few hours ago it was reported that: "Beijing and Brussels have been preparing to announce their intention to accelerate joint efforts to reduce global carbon emissions. According to a statement being prepared before an EU-China summit in Brussels on Thursday and Friday, the new alliance will say they are determined to “lead the energy transition” toward a low-carbon economy." https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2017/may/31/china-eu-climate-lead-paris-agreement Or this from the original agreement: "Based on analysis by some of the world’s leading energy institutes, China’s INDC represents a significant undertaking beyond business-as-usual and will help slow the rise in global greenhouse gas emissions. According to the U.S. Energy Information Administration (EIA), International Energy Agency (IEA), Massachusetts Institute of Technology (MIT) and Tsinghua University, peaking carbon dioxide emissions around 2030 would reduce China’s emissions by at least 1.7 Gt or 14 percent from the most optimistic business-as-usual (BAU) scenario" https://www.c2es.org/docUploads/chinas-contributions-paris-climate-agreement.pdf

Yep, sure is: http://edition.cnn.com/2017/06/01/europe/eu-us-climate/index.html

Yeah, it's hopeless.

Google Translate does a pretty good job with that... auto detects that the language is Azerbaijani and returns: "I google to find a reliable translation".

I ran that through Google Translate, but all to no effect unfortunately. I do find it funny that you are so ready to put the boot into sites like Snopes, yet so willing to believe 21st Century Wire, whose founder Patrick Henningsen is also an associate editor for Alex Jones and his Info Wars and a geopolitical analyst for Russia Today. As far as truth is concerned... neither USA or Russia have any credibility under their current leaderships and certainly Henningsen's affiliations hardly give him much credibility in the media bias stakes.

Yes, a very reliable source you've used dieter https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/21st-century-wire/ Disproven: http://www.snopes.com/cnn-same-refugee-girl/

Nice to see you toeing the Russian line there dieter.

This is late news, but RIP Robbie Souter who passed away last week on the 11th May... he was the original drummer with the Dynamic Hepnotics, as well as playing with Mental As Anything, Slim Dusty and numerous small Sydney bands. Was a lovely guy and will be sorely missed by the many who knew him.

Completely unrelated to Trump, but this one tickled my sense of humour:

Hey, it's all just good fun... life's too short (and getting shorter) to get hung up on a meme or three.

Trump can do no wrong in Wrecker's eyes, so the figures cited in the meme must be fabricated... however, the only thing I can see that is in any way misleading is the title, as this is not really about travel expenses... it is about the cost of security to the taxpayer every time Trump travels to Mara Lago. For example, the visit with the Chinese President apparently set the taxpayer back over $3mil in security expenses plus additional costs (in the hundreds of thousands) to the local Palm Beach residents. http://time.com/money/4703151/donald-trump-mar-a-lago-costs-taxpayers-palm-beach/

Actually, yes, you are irrational for pointing that out. The fact that I posted a joke relating to Trump doesn't have anything at all to do with whether I have posted any jokes about any other leader(s). I haven't posted one of Obama... but nor have I posted one relating to any or all of Bush, Turnbull, Abbott, Howard, Rudd, or any other leader... ok, well maybe I posted jokes relating to Hanson and Latham. If you were to do some analysis of my posting statistics, I think you would find that relatively very very few of my 7,000+ posts have been made in the General Forum... this is a football discussion site after all. The other thing that I find very funny and at the same time very telling regarding your rationality... in your first post following my posting of the joke that seems to have gotten you into such a tizz, you accused me of deflecting from the discussion you were having... go back and count how many posts you have made since in relation to this. My simple posting of a joke obviously appealed to your obsessive/narcisistic nature and you have indeed managed to make the perceived deflection a reality.

Well, I can certainly understand why you are such a fan of the Trump... you are completely irrational.