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P-man

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  1. Okay.
  2. a) You had responded in a couple of other threads so was merely wondering if you'd seen this one, or were choosing not to respond. b) I have no interest in a private conversation, I'm asking you for your position publicly. c) You wouldn't be the first person to have adjusted their thinking somewhat over the course of recent weeks. Ron Burgundy is one example of this, from memory. In saying that, I honestly I can't recall exactly your position because all I've seen you do lately is add "likes" to posts which contradict mine, or make minor correction to other posts like the tackle count over the weekend. I'd be genuinely interested in your latest positon on what moves the club should make, and on Neeld in particular. If you don't want to, that's fine.
  3. A very reasonable post again and a welcome contribution. You certainly don't give off the impression of someone purely sticking to principles on this subject, and have clearly thought it through. Kudos. A few points which come to mind: - I doubt anyone is claiming that Neeld took over a picnic. I am however of the opinion that the situation has worsened, significantly, since Neeld took over, through poor decisions both on and off field. Clearly there were issues to which you have alluded, not least of which was the dearth in leadership. This in itself is something for which there is no easy fix, though your post seems to assume that the captaincy appointment was the only move that could have been made. I doubt many could honestly say that the Trengove appointment has been shown to be a correct decision. Quite the opposite. It would appear no-one has benefited from it, least of all Jack himself. And I don't for one minute buy into Neeld essentially washing his hands off it by claiming it was put to a vote. He's the coach for heaven's sake. Selecting the CAPTAIN is one of his most important decisions of which he must take ownership. - The loss of Rivers and Moloney - a huge chunk of games experience walking out the door. For what reason? Both have provided a pretty clear indication it was due to an inability to play for Neeld. His defenders on this site will point to this as a positive, citing Moloney and Rviers as being representative of a poor culture that preceded Neeld. In the scheme of things, this is irrelevant. They are human beings, and they have talent. A good senior coach would have been able to achieve their buy in as SENIOR players, no question. Neeld had the opposite effect, resulting in both seeing their only option being to walk. Moloney in particular is certainly not free from blame, but both his and Rivers' absence has hurt us, and for that, Neeld must be held accountable (note I am not disregarding the impact of the J Mac decision under Bailey, which was a stinker). - I think to attribute the form of Garland and Jones to Neeld is a little too convenient. I'm not discounting it, but the form of the vast majority of the list points towards it being more likely that these players are simply coming into their prime, Jones in particular. - To single out the Freo and Gold Coast games is essentially washing over other performances which have, on the whole, been completely unacceptable at AFL level. Granted, Gold Coast showed against the Hawks that they are a much better side than they were last year, but this does not absolve the team from the disgusting lack of effort in that match. Which leads to the next point which you raise...who is to blame for this absence of the fundamentals? - I am not for one minute saying all for this is Neeld's fault. Clearly the playing group have to take an equally large degree of responsibility for what is happening. But the buck stops with Neeld for good reason. As senior coach he is the one providing the instruction and motivation, which on the footy being produced has been a monumental fail on both counts. Players look lost, constinually second guessing themselves, and simply unable to move the ball on quickly which is so important in the modern game. Over the weekend I witnessed players simply not running in the first quarter. The FIRST quarter. It was almost unbelievable to witness, and it is inexcusable because it can not possibly be a fitness issue. It is either a misunderstanding of the gameplan and not knowing where to run, or a basic unwillingness to try. After 18 months at the helm, this to me can not be defended because this MUST come down to Neeld. We're not asking for miracles here. We're asking for something remotely resembling a cohesive, competitive side. He may be an absolute gun coach for a developed side, but for a developing side, he clearly is not. - If Neeld is somehow able to retain his job after the Bye, following thrashings at the hands of Hawks and Pies, am I to assume that your view will be altered if we are put to the slaughter by St Kilda and the Bulldogs? Having watched both of those teams a fair bit, I can't see us getting close to either one. I just want to be sure that I understand you when you say those matches will be "the benchmarks of our progress", because I know there are some posters for whom no loss will be too great to covnince them, or at least to admit, that we've got the wrong bloke leading us out of this hole. You seem a reasonable guy, so am I understandfing you correctly that failure of these tests would see an alteration in your view on Neeld? - We all know the lines being fed to the footy world. "We're in a rebuild of a rebuild". "It is what it is". Right now, we are accepting of the state we're in because we have to wait it out while the players build up games' experience. That's what we're told. We have to accept being legitimately and statistically compared with Fitzroy on its last legs, having our brand massacred and mocked by the entire country. Reduced to complete and utter irrelevance. We have to accept it, because "it is what it is". I say that's crap. It doesn't have to be this way. No club has to be brought to its knees like this in the name of a rebuild. The time for a statement has come, and that statement is we do no accept the football being produced, and we will move heaven and heart to bring the person or persons to this club who are capable of restoring it to where it once was, and utilising the talent on our list to its full potential, of which are are only seeing a shred.
  4. Doesn't look like I'm getting an answer. I guess I'll have to judge based on which posts you like.
  5. I think Healy may have been doing a sell job to the bloke sitting a couple of seats down from him by the name of Paul Roos. "Check out the core group..it's pretty good eh Roosy?" The spine has the potential to be as good as any in the competition. There is still the makings of a good side there. I would be tempted to lock Pickles into long term plans but his most recent performance has me hitting the pause button.
  6. What's your current stance on this issue, bing?
  7. In numerous threads I continue to see those who take umbrage with placing responsibility for this team on Neeld, and yes, some who STILL believe he should see out his contract. So yes, they do exist. If ever a situation called for a united voice, now is the time. It's critical that change happens now. The brand is taking an absolute hammering and even as it stands it will take a long time to undo this damage.
  8. I'm beginning to wonder if some people either don't give any weight to the circulating rumours about an exodus of talent at the end of the year, or they simply don't see it as a big issue. It's one or the other. Both stances are negligent. We can NOT afford to lose them. Diabolical on-field performance is one thing, and we've been so bad for so long that I can understand people almost being used to the weekly beltings. But if the names being thrown around end up leaving, that is a crippling situation we'd be facing as a club. The club has never been lower in my time, and painting it up any which way does not alter the fact that responsibility for our situation significantly falls on Neeld's shoulders. His position is absolutely and without question untenable. How anyone can defend Neeld's staying on for another YEAR at this point, I find absolutely staggering, verging on delusional. It is so blatantly obvious that the situation is calling for immediate change, I'm just at a loss as to how anyone can think otherwise now.
  9. You bloody tease.
  10. I've stopped listening to what he has to say. This is the first week this year where I haven't watched the post-match. I don't like admitting that, but my faith in him is now at zero.
  11. Can I ask again that people please stop quoting Satyr. It defeats the purpose of putting him on ignore. Cheers.
  12. Outstanding work AJ. You're a gem.
  13. You simply can not assert that with any basis, unless you can put your hand to heart and say that what we are witnessing is the very best that can be extracted from this group, at this point in time. I dare say the only ones that would agree with you on that are bing, who seems to "like" any post that downplays the shocking performances or even vaguely supports Neeld, Satyr, enough said, and a sprinkling of others willing to go down with the ship screaming "Neeld forever!". The majority can quite clearly see a dispirited, disinterested, and confused bunch of players, as plain as the nose on your face. A GOOD coach can address that within 6 months.
  14. lol AFL's version of The Truman Show.
  15. And it will conclude with me putting my boot though the screen.
  16. Of the top FIFTEEN possession winners on the field, we have two.
  17. I'd have to have an ounce of respect for Dwayne as a caller to get angry at him now.
  18. It's game day. This is when they lurk in the background throwing in the occasional "like". Mid week is when they jump back on to add their condescending remarks and tell everyone how stupid they are.
  19. Spare a thought for AmericanDemon. He had the chance to pick any club and decided on this sorry mob.
  20. Protest performance? Is it even possible to be this awful?
  21. That's precisely what he's doing.
  22. If he's not gone on Monday they can shove their membership up their date.
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