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... or this thread. It's a TEAM sport. But as always, we have a loss, and people start looking for scapegoats.

That's how you judge supporters, how quickly they go into meltdown? Not to mention, Essendon played finals last year, with basically the same team. Pretty obvious questions would be asked given that they appear to be going backwards. We, on the other hand, are obviously going forward.

Yep. Some pathetic comments here from fairweather supporters. Have a look at some of the other scores from this round. Someone should change the name of the forum to "whingers-land". Outtahere.

Phew ...

You've made your point ... in fact, you made it 3 posts back ... now you're just repeating yourself. People see things differently.

I used to visit a couple of times a day, but getting increasingly sick of the xxx is a spud, bring in xxx, Bailey's a looser etc. etc. People are entitled to their opinions, but to keep banging on about the same stuff week in week out just gets tedious. Even a harmless "injuries" thread gets derailed by posters with their own axes to grind.

FFS. How do you know Bailey and the committe are not prepared to make courageous selection decisions? What a lot of BS. Just because they haven't done what you think they should, they're wimps? As for comparing Liam's physical condition with a mature (and elite) footballer like Riewoldt .... the mind boggles. LJ hasn't even played a full season, yet alone completed a full pre-season. People on these boards are the first to start demanding more backbone from the players and club, yet when we have a bad loss or two, they're the first to start running round like headless chickens because the sky is falling. Where's the steely resolve amongst the supporters when the going gets tough?? LJ should play when he's ready. THAT'S the couragous decision.

10 possesions and did next to nothing against Collingwood. He's not the saviour. Yet.

Concern? No.

Ah, short memories. Maybe go back and re-read some of the reports re those 4 from last week's Casey game, both from Gotch and from pundits on this forum (and others) who were there. The phrase "not an AFL footballer" was used more than once. Clutching at straws.

The problem isn't the forward line, it's the way and number of times we're getting it down there. Conversion rate today was good ... even very good, considering what was going on further up the ground.

5 players in from a Casey team that was slaughtered?

Then keep puzzling ... one big difference between Miller and Bell/Johnson is that he's in the leadership group. Perhaps people who work/play alongside Brad have a different, even a better persepective, on what he brings to the team?

Presumably a specialist football journalist. As opposed to an armchair expert?

Yes, absolutely. Both coming back into it after longer term injuries.

"Shane O'Bree pulled up sore in training and was withdrawn from Monday's squad with Brad Dick coming into the 25-man squad." ... Collingwood Twitter apparently.

Atrocius? Hardly. He's played 3 games (only) since he came back in. One of them he was one of the best and kicked 5 goals, the next he was OK (just) when the whole team was pretty cooked, and last week, nearly everyone was below par (and in the wet).

Agree 100%. A moment of reason buried in yet another pointless Jack W thread.

There's nothing wrong with the preparation that experience won't fix. Young players, working out what to do each week. Sometimes they get it wrong.

Michael Newton I thought Juice was probably one of our best couple of players. He took eight marks, and in those conditions, that was really good. He played a bit in the ruck, and he was part of the last passage as well. He got the mark from the kick in, got it to Johnno, and then Johnno passed it to McGough for the goal. So, he did some really constructive things. He was a very important player.

Or Strauss.

A footballer has a short career, and generally wants to play in finals and win premierships ...

er ....?? Who's being precious? Thought this was "the place to share your thoughts". Were you expecting everyone to agree with you? Meanwhile, back on thread, my one-word player analysis for the whole 22: Tired.

Agree with most of that. Not to sure about being too hard on the forward line, the way it was coming in was pretty desperate much of the time. Not to mention, look at Port this week ... probably no coincidence both teams went down. Darwin ... only before a week off for me!

Yep. Also along similar lines, Strauss, Cheney and Bail. Could be some openings if they have a good game tomorrow. But equally, hard to single out any particular players today, we were just over-run by a team a league above us and in full flight.