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This is just speculation. From what the players and staff say, that would appear to not be the case. I don't think we can ignore the personal journey he's been on for the last couple of years: father, cancer, then a succession of serious injuries. Perhaps he feels like he needs to restart from a clean slate, and if that's the case, hard to argue with.

Sorry to see Jesse go, but understand and it is what it is. 2 first rounders, a bit of haggling lower down, take it. Equally, not sure how the lower picks is going to work, because Freo seem to have traded most of theirs, and after pick 5 their next is currently 77 so ...? The only issue here is whether we can get May. Plenty seem to be assuming that that's what's going to happen, but it has to be made to work for all concerned first. Plenty of Pies supporters adamant that he's chosen them, and in any case, reports are (grain of salt ...) that May is after a 5 year deal and on good coin.

It was more what he didn't say, basic theme was "if he goes, we won't hold it against him". Good speaker, you can see why they went so hard for him. Leadership material.

Yes, a few clubs have big holes in their draft options (e.g., Freo with 5 ... and then 77, Saints with 5 and then 57). Trading away your future draft picks is all well and good, but then you end up with no draft picks. Could be some horse-trading for picks.

Our highest pick is 32, but with 8 or so players to replace would be surprised to see us use that on a trade, would take us out of the first two rounds of the draft altogether. Hopefully one of our 3rd round picks will get it done, they don't want to hang on to him regardless of where he was initially drafted.

Whether he does/doesn't is irrelevant. It was a talking point across the media, including radio and TV. You only had to watch the live broadcasts for it to come up, and you'd have to live in a cave with no exposure to ANY footy to have not heard/seen this floated, especially after Weideman's performance against Geelong.

https://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/teams/melbourne/melbourne-could-be-better-without-forward-jesse-hogan-writes-jay-clark/news-story/41e7737a13a48695165036394665883d

All those “Dees better without Hogan” articles and posts couldn’t have helped his frame of mind re staying.

The problem with T Mac down back is his disposal and decision-making. When all he has in front of him is goalposts, it gets much simpler.

If he stays, it would only make sense in the context of him also extending his contract past the end of next season, which presumably is something that's coming into consideration on all sides.

If we get into the granny, suspect that they will hold Fritsch back from the VFL final. Others as well. (as reported).

WTF ... Lewis had more rebounds than any other player on the field.

Amongst both teams he had most possessions , equal most marks, and highest number of rebound 50's, all taken care of with a disposal efficiency higher than all but one Collingwood player (who had 3 kicks), and all but 3 of ours. He also spent more time on the ground than any other player out there (94%). But heh, zero impact.

After you. No, after you. No, after you, I insist. etc.

Well, it would presumably get us back into the first round by way of compo.

Oh yes I can. Exhibit A, the Bandwagon Effect: "As people come to believe in something, others "hop on the bandwagon" regardless of the underlying evidence." And there's plenty more where that came from. The work of 3 Nobel Prize winners, Herbert Simon, Daniel Kahneman (with Amos Tversky), and Richard Thaler, comes to mind. We are, as Dan Ariely pointed out, predictably irrational.

Oh no there doesn't. There are a whole series of cognitive biases around group/sheep/herd behaviours. And this goes back a long long way. We're social animals, and the pressure to conform to the group (from both self and others) trumps rationality every time (almost).

Yes, I know. A player's trade value is ultimately determined by what his football manager says in the press. Every club will know exactly what they're getting, and they'll have their own criteria for evaluating each player. The rest is just background noise.

You're right. MFC is for MFC. As it should be.

We will if a) there are multiple clubs in the running (which seems to the case) and b) we make it clear that it's second rounder or nothing (which seems to be the case).

Adelaide won't accept anything else than a first rounder plus something else (2nd round presumably). Nor would we, and nor would you expect us to.

Bernie was "let go" by the Crows and didn't have much say in it.

Phenomenal news on Lever if we can pull it off - which I'm sure we can, in spite of the huffing and puffing from Adelaide. He and Hibberd, the cornerstones of an AA backline.

Also older. Lever has his whole career ahead of him.

Judging by some of the comments, perhaps some of you might like to explore this further, though it's impossible to draw any solid conclusions from a single test. I live OS, so am a bit out of the loop re how this works in Oz, but usually you would start off with your GP, though that depends on both you and the GP - some are more up to speed than others. The majority of organisations and individuals offering diagnosis are working with kids, so there might be a bit of sorting out of the wheat from the chaff. I'd specifically look for someone: a) specialised in Asperger's and autism, though if you're an adult and there was no speech delay as a kid, we're looking at Asperger's rather than autism (though that's a simplification of the situation, but enough for here), and b) someone specialised in adult diagnosis. Aspergers Victoria look like a decent place to start if you're in Melbourne/Vic. The first meeting with a psychologist or whatever might be nothing more than an exploratory chat to see whether it's worth pursuing or exploring possibilities, so it's perhaps worth at least going that far with it. I'd just say one thing re all this: Adults on the spectrum have grown up with it, and have often learnt to cope by masking the difficulties, especially socially. But that can be much more stressful than what we might be aware of. One of the main causes of death amongst autists is suicide. And the incidence of suicide is highest amongst autistic people who have no cognitive impairment (i.e. invisible autistics like me), where the suicide rate is 9 times the non-autistic population (Swedish study). Tony Attwood has observed that for many adult Asperger's, managing stress and depression is a greater concern than anything to do with autism itself. Not suggesting that's the case of anyone here, but if there's anything in this, speaking from experience, it's worth exploring. If you're autistic, you can never not be (and vice versa). But knowing that you are brings understanding, and with understanding comes the means to live and manage it better. Go Dees.