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Except that that's not what people were arguing is it. Demonland.

This is an example of the gulf that exists between your average footy supporter's perception and the reality of what goes on inside an AFL club.

Not liking others' opinions is in itself an opinion ... which as you're pointing out, everyone is entitled to.

Communication is also about respect, and that starts with making an effort to acknowledge people's name or preferred form of address.

Absolutely. But the sense of motivation and self-belief we had in 2021 was off the charts, that's not something that's easy to replicate. Personally, I still feel that we're a bit short for onfield leadership, much as Viney and Gawn do what they can. You think of Hawthorn with the likes of Hodge, Lewis and Mitchell running around, it was a big part of their longer-term success.

Absolutely. But also the President and the board, though right across the club. Credit to Goodwin for being able to work through this honestly and then own it. He'll be back.

Someone who's good at the job would be handier.

"Steven King took time out of his Grand Final preparation to meet with uncontracted Demon Judd McVee as a decision nears on his future. McVee’s management will meet with the Demons defender this week to assess the landscape but he emerged from that meeting with positive vibes about his coach. He has interest from WA-based clubs but the more likely outcome now is that he re-signs at the Demons. His partner Lily Johnson plays for the Demons’ AFLW side, although there is other interest in Victoria. McVee is keen to play a more attacking role in the backline under McVee but had held off signing a new deal for the entire year as he was pigeonholed as a close-checking defender." https://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/gold-coast-suns-shut-down-raid-rumours-on-bailey-humphrey-plus-the-latest-on-charlie-curnow-judd-mcvee-pies-young-guns-and-more/news-story/6cf5acec0b946bc5773bd3055ba877a4?amp&fbclid=IwY2xjawM_OJ1leHRuA2FlbQIxMQBicmlkETFYSEZhQ3hLeXdBMG5pZ0NnAR7I6PrrY93zcMHVY-0M01vL1Me0QxpSNaqCTsvBvvnnDEXXw0SjFeAHp2GUqA_aem_XIg-obDGj2QHkp41VhHvHw&nk=145a0d1f2eca19b62dc1cea38edcb85d-1758615886 (Typo in that, I presume that the bit in the middle there should be "play a more attacking role in the backline under King ")

No he didn't. You're confusing possibility with probability.

I suspect a suitor will be found. The club is making all the right, respectful noises, but behind all that it seems pretty clear that we want him gone.

Melbourne’s decision to tell Steven May he is free to look elsewhere might look like standard list management: a 34-year-old defender with a year left on his contract, a new coach, and a club in transition. But beneath the surface, this call is about more than age or cap space. It’s about culture, leadership, and the end of the protective bubble that once shielded the Demons’ 2021 heroes. For all his credentials as a premiership defender, May was never the type to pull a group together. He barked, he scolded, he demanded, but he wasn’t widely seen as a unifying presence. At a time when Melbourne needs strong voices to redefine itself after four disappointing years, May was often a distraction rather than a leader. Under Steven King, Melbourne are re-tooling their list and game style for a faster, more flexible defensive system. A high-maintenance veteran with one year left on his deal was never going to be part of that blueprint. https://www.theroar.com.au/2025/09/21/steven-mays-time-was-up-at-melbourne-the-dees-cant-waste-any-more-time-on-high-maintenance-veterans/amp/?fbclid=IwY2xjawM-WoRleHRuA2FlbQIxMQABHmlZjk7BxoQtBDXBWT6a8LY5oc-5dyfSzpZSZZVLrS84MhrFaUhXbieQhWsO_aem_BvdjD07wmleKGVn9_0lTWw

Why do people have such trouble understanding that the List Manager's primary job is contracts, salaries and navigating the salary cap and list long-term. Lamb does NOT recruit players. That's primarily Taylor's job, in collaboration with the List Management Committee. Lamb is heavily involved in recruiting once players have been identified (Taylor and co.) as it's his responsibility to do the deals, set up the contracts etc.

Every coach in the league has finals in 2026 as the aim. Doesn't mean it's going to happen.

Not sure if this has been posted: While Adelaide are evidently in need of a game-breaking midfielder of Petracca’s mould, Foxfooty.com.au understands the club isn’t willing to move heaven and earth to acquire him — or, in other words, act on anything they perceive to be an overpay. Fox SportsRevealed: Crows’ confidence in landing Demons superstar b...Revealed: Crows’ confidence in landing Demons superstar builds as Petracca warms to exit

Good luck with that.

Trac's a 30 year old on a massive contract. If he was coming to us no-one here would want to pay more than a couple of second rounders.

Fantasyland. Not only are those picks not available, even if they were ...

They already have 14, so there's one. They then have a) future first and b) LOTS of lower picks that if they're clever they can turn into something higher up. Though which clubs with higher picks would be prepared to trade out of the first round remains to be seen.

Not to mention Stengle.

Melbourne Football Club National Recruiting Manager: Jason Taylor

Seriously? They've offered him 2 years. As for the first bit, the Pies whose list is built around a handful of gifted father sons plus a handful of geriatrics, who increasingly have trouble getting/staying on the park, those Pies? They're about to fall off a cliff.

A thousand times this.

Not surprising at all. You play May forward, the next thing that happens is JVR and Jefferson ask for a trade because they're languishing in the VFL and not getting games. Meanwhile, at the other end we start leaking like a sieve. May is pretty well cooked, he's not the answer to anything and hasn't been for the last year or two.

Is that a statement or a question? If the former that's good news, presumably he'd be on decent coin in Sydney. A great get for them, brings a lot of experience.

Do you know if anyone else's was delayed? Presumably though, if they're being delayed it's because the club is/has been considering their list/contract status. Surely there's no other reason. Perhaps the May decision was held over till we had clarity on Mihocek, Adams, Derkson and potential movement in those areas - apparently there were clubs sniffing around Adams, so we may have promised him more game time.